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Mark, I can certainly sympathize. I see VA/Java as putting in the work up front so that when you have a real problem you can fix it quickly. I am the only one using VA/Java in a group of five programmers. Several others tried it and bailed out. They still come to me when we need a quick build or to find out where something is used. I have never had VA/Java lock up on 3.5 with patch 2. On the downside. VA/Java runs Java slowly and slows down my PC. Most systems I use are in the PIII 500 mhz range with 256M of memory. That is not enough. I also had problems importing the latest AS/400 toolbox. I am moving to 3.5.3 today hoping that it will correct that problem. I also do not like the fact that VA/Java forces you through gyrations when installing software that is bundled together. The real problem is with the bundling, but VA/Java should allow you to recover more gracefully when it encounters a conflict. David Morris >>> MWalter@hanoverwire.com 06/18/01 06:53AM >>> THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT. I've tried all weekend to make VAJAVA work for me. It locks up, the debugger doesn't work when I want it to, and after a problem, I can't save my source. The only reason I started using it (VAJAVA) is to have a debugger that works, since the debugger shipped with WDT/400 doesn't support the JDK shipped with WDT/400. Now that makes allot of sense. IBM promotes Java as the best thing since sliced bread. They tool the death bell of native development paradigms. They tell developers that they should learn the "new" technologies and I, for one, embrace learning new things. I've finally, in the last month, was able to put aside the some time explicitly for learning Java. The language itself doesn't seem that difficult and the learning curve is not as steep as I had heard. But the tools provided by IBM, in my opinion are atrocious. People on these lists spend allot of time and energy slamming MS. I, for one, feel that anyone developing an IDE for any environment should look at VB. MS got it right with that one. OK, I'm done with my Monday morning rant. Mark Mark Walter Sr. Programmer/Analyst Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc. mwalter@hanoverwire.com http://www.hanoverwire.com 717.637.3795 Ext.3040 +--- | This is the JAVA/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to JAVA400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JAVA400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JAVA400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: joe@zappie.net +---
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