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  • Subject: Re: VAJAVA vs CODE/400
  • From: "David Morris" <dmorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:35:10 -0600

Mark,

I can certainly sympathize.  I see VA/Java as putting in the work up front so 
that 
when you have a real problem you can fix it quickly.  I am the only one using 
VA/Java in a group of five programmers.  Several others tried it and bailed 
out.  
They still come to me when we need a quick build or to find out where something 
is used. I have never had VA/Java lock up on 3.5 with patch 2.

On the downside.  VA/Java runs Java slowly and slows down my PC.  Most 
systems I use are in the PIII 500 mhz range with 256M of memory.  That is not 
enough.  I also had problems importing the latest AS/400 toolbox. I am moving 
to 3.5.3 today hoping that it will correct that problem. I also do not like the 
fact that 
VA/Java forces you through gyrations when installing software that is bundled 
together. The real problem is with the bundling, but VA/Java should allow you 
to recover more gracefully when it encounters a conflict.

David Morris

>>> MWalter@hanoverwire.com 06/18/01 06:53AM >>>

THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT. I've tried all weekend to make VAJAVA work for me.
It locks up, the debugger doesn't work when I want it to, and after a
problem, I can't save my source.

The only reason I started using it (VAJAVA) is to have a debugger that
works, since the debugger shipped with WDT/400 doesn't support the JDK
shipped with WDT/400. Now that makes allot of sense.

IBM promotes Java as the best thing since sliced bread. They tool the death
bell of native development paradigms. They tell developers that they should
learn the "new" technologies and I, for one, embrace learning new things.
I've finally, in the last month, was able to put aside the some time
explicitly for learning Java. The language itself doesn't seem that
difficult and the learning curve is not as steep as I had heard. But the
tools provided by IBM, in my opinion are atrocious.

People on these lists spend allot of time and energy slamming MS. I, for
one, feel that anyone developing an IDE for any environment should look at
VB. MS got it right with that one.

OK, I'm done with my Monday morning rant.

Mark



Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com 
http://www.hanoverwire.com 
717.637.3795 Ext.3040

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