Chris, I agree with you about the frustration of not being able to take advantage of superior powers of AS/400 and Java combination. I hope someone from IBM (including Lau Geshner) will read this too. <Chris wrote:> <The fact that there is so much that can be> <done with Java right now on the AS/400 is a very frustrating situation for> <those of us who know the tremendous capabilities the AS/400 has to offer for> <web application development.> Just look at Microsoft. It gives us so many tools, WORKING sample programs, and support on the Internet about its products to develop any kinds of applications. Those of us who also use its product are in fact sales reps for Microsoft. We will tell our friends and such how easy it is to develop on NT platform with all the help from Microsoft. And it goes on. What we may not discuss too much is how many times NT will crash (or shall I say the Task has to be ended). AS/400's superior capability has to be harnessed, and IBM should be the first one to start. Is IBM really serious about Java on the AS/400? Is it really kidding itself? I hope not. IBM, give us some WORKING examples and application snippets in various development tools, such as Java, Visual Basic, Power Builder etc. Something I can download from net, easily put on to the AS/400 and run it on Unix/Windows platform. IBM, you can lead the way and provide us, the loyal AS/400 customers, with EVERYTHING we need to get started without frustration. Just because AS/400 does not crash or has superior powers, does not justify developing for this platform. Hard core money....., you know, will dictate the final outcome. Please don't tell me about VA for JAVA and OLE DB. Without a good start, they pale to nothing. IBM, if you need help in amplification of this note, feel free to contact me. Kishor Patel -----Original Message----- From: Christopher J. Jewell (Jewell Consulting) [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 5:24 PM To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com Subject: RE: Java questions Frank: I'm listening in too! As are many people, I think, I am astounded by how few companies, (at least here in the SF Bay Area), are at all interested in writing web-based applications utilizing Java on the AS/400. At my current client-site, the Java effort is going into Sybase/Oracle/NT environments. This is a great shame, since they have many wonderfully high-powered AS/400s all running mission critical systems, which could benefit enormously from some green-screen applications rewritten in Java. I believe what we're seeing here the usual issue with our favourite black box: it still has the aura of: "that reliable but slightly old-fashioned low-cost-of-use computer which cannot possibly do anything new other than run our important programs which are all writting in RPG III and which we dare not have anyone mess with". The fact that there is so much that can be done with Java right now on the AS/400 is a very frustrating situation for those of us who know the tremendous capabilities the AS/400 has to offer for web application development. As for your specific issue, I would not recommend carrying forward your record-level access into Java programs. The accepted (and portable standard is to use JDBC. Regards Chris Jewell mailto://email@example.com > -----Original Message----- > From: firstname.lastname@example.org > [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf Of DeSarro Frank > Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 8:25 AM > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > Subject: Java questions > > > I have two questions. First, there seems to be very little > activity on > this java mail list. Could anyone who subscribes to this list identify > yourself. I promise I won't start mailing you questions. I just > want to > find out how many people are out there listening. > Second, if anyone is trying to develop applications using > the AS/400 > Toolbox for Java, I'm disappointed by the methods provided for the > KeyedFile class. Does anyone have a different opinion? The class does > not seem to provide the capabilities that would be useful for > positioning > and reading through a keyed file. I know the class provides about a > dozen methods for accessing records, but when I try to actually start > using them in a real application, I find them to be lacking. As an > example, there does not seem to be a method to simply position > you to the > end of a file or to read the last record in a file. You can use the > methods provided to attempt to simulate these functions, but I find > myself starting to need to make assumptions about the data to easily > accomplish these tasks and others. Any comments or suggestions > would be > greatly appreciated. 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