• Subject: Re: Java questions
  • From: "Dan Hicks" <danhicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Dec 98 11:16:38 -0500
  • Posted-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:19:17 -0600 (CST)

One way to get started learning Java itself (and not the IDEs or alphabet soup 
of class 
libraries) is to take some dirt-simple application you want to do and do that 
in Java.  
For starters, come up with something you'd do on a PC in BASIC, such as an 
application that reads and modifies PC files.  (Eg, replace all cases of "Fred" 
with 
"Joe" in a source file.)  Even better is a text-output-only application, such 
as one that 
calculates volume of a box, given the dimensions as command line parameters.  
Then 
you can "bootstrap" yourself into some of the other stuff.

Some people have said the "Java in 21 days" book is a good way to get into the 
basic 
AWT and applet stuff, but it's probably not teaching the stuff that many of you 
want to 
learn.

On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 01:24:51 EST, Kpalmq@aol.com wrote:

>Count me in!
>
>I have been lurking on this list since it's inception.  Like most others, I am
>probably too intimidated by my lack of true experience with JAVA to jump into
>discussions.  I have been reading up on it for over a year and have had a few
>fruitless starts to personal projects.  It seems, though, that without a
>definite goal (read: project) it is hard to get any momentum.  (Any
>suggestions anyone?)  Also, having been working with the S/38 - AS/400 line
>since about 1980, there is a whole lot of unlearning that needs to be done for
>me to be truly effective with such a different approach, although I have been
>intrigued with O-O since first learning about it some 10 yrs. ago.   Is anyone
>willing to share their experience with some of the different educational
>"modes" (tutorials, video tapes, seminars et al)? 
>
>And now for a plug... We have a Java/O-O SIG here in the Chicago area,
>sponsored by the Omni User, an AS/400 oriented group.  Our SIG meets on the
>1st Wednesday evening of each month.  For more info, e-mail me at the address
>below.  In December we had a talk by John Quantarello from IBM Java Marketing
>that was eye-opening.  In January we will have a demonstration of a GUI with
>AS/400 data access, including an explanation of how the development process
>occurred.  In the future we will have presentations from ERP vendors using
>JAVA and we may consider a side-by-side comparison of IDEs.  So slowly we are
>increasing our high-level knowledge of JAVA, but the challenge of learning to
>truly work with the language remains.   
>
>Kevin Palmquist
>kpalmq@aol.com
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