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on 11/18/97at 10:27 PM, the Great and Grand Wazir John Earl <johnearl@lns400.com> said: There are clever folks who know how to pitch a tent on someone else's server and scan all traffic for the word 'password'. When they see it, they grab the series of packets around that word and store it for later use. No, the net is not a place to be trusting. The equipment to do the same thing on telephone wires is just as available, and with the equipment one can hear card numbers in the clear. Just camp out around a cell phone tower. My only point right from the beginning has been to measure the real exposure and not the emotional exposure. For example, there are hundreds of bank robberies every day in the US. Banks know this, and they know how to hire security people with body armour and machine guns, but they also realize any single bank's losses in a year will be far less than the salaries and benefits of those armed guards. Not to mention frightening the customers. These losses are business losses and can be measured, just as credit losses are measured and added into the annual interest rate on a credit card. Just imagine your savings if your "store" was a web page, open 24/7/365, no heat, no property taxes, no fires, floods, or snow storms, world-wide reach, and almost no phone costs. With those savings you can subsidize credit card losses and still be way, way ahead. ---------------------------------------------------- Booth Martin --------------------------------------------------- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "JAVA400-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com | and specify 'unsubscribe JAVA400-L' in the body of your message. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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