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I didn't know you could force the indexing to only occur on a specific
server. I don't know if I have any budget for that extra Wintel server,
but it's a thought.
Picture their client as nothing more than a POP3 (or IMAP, in our case)
client. It just happens to turn around and feed the data to a mobile
phone. The overhead on the server should be whatever it would be normally
from having POP3 available.
I know I can prevent access to POP3 at the firewall, but that doesn't do
any good for the user that knows he knows better and sets up a POP3 on a
VPN connection or even on a workstation within the network. Is there a way
to prevent connections to POP3 at the server itself?
Patrick
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It is not a good solution if it decimates the mail server performance.
We all know users love to complain when LOTUS NOTES is
slow.....................
Blackberry is another fine example of a solution that adds lots of
overhead to the email server.
I have a remote office on a decent WinTel box dual Zeon with RAID drives.
Everything was fine until they decided to add 40 Blackberry users to the
system.
That results in 3 queries per minute from Blackberry to 40 users email
databases. It generates allot of overhead on
the CPUs. It gets worse since the users want to keep Gigabytes of mail, so
the paging on the box goes through the roof.
Since this is a Wintel box I can't just add a processor or more memory
since it is maxed already. Looks like I may be switching those users
around in
the cluster so Blackberry reads the cluster copy in the home office on
iSeries and leaves the WinTel box alone.
You could build a Domino cluster server and full text index the mail files
on that server only, then point the Mobile Voice by One Voice Technologies
server to read the cluster server. That would reduce the workload on the
Primary server and keep it quick and available for regular Lotus Notes
Client or iNotes use.
Without knowing the full details on the POP3 solution One Voice
Technologies provides,you try to use POP3 and then restrict who can
connect to
the POP3 server to only allow connections from a particular IP address
etc. There is a way to keep users out of POP3.
Sean
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1. Re: Lotus Notes-AS400 Link (Tom Kreimer)
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date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:25:41 -0400
from: Tom Kreimer <tkreimer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Lotus Notes-AS400 Link
This is most often accomplished via an SMTP message. There are dozens of
packages that can send SMTP (I think we use them all), so take your pick
or keep looking for more. Just configure Domino to accept SMTP mail from
your AS/400 and then configure anything that can write an SMTP message to
deliver it to the SMTP port on Domino. Besides SMTP, I think we also use
an API package.
SMTP:
Gumbo mail - http://www.gumbo.com/Licpgm/GumboMail.html
icom/400 - http://www.pbsnow.com/42/icom400_Features.htm
Java's sendjmail (not AS/400 specific, find a Java junkie)
OS/400 SNDMSG (free - included in OS/400)
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/3ff1161e61e6c7468625661300765a3f/34879f5e413aa5cd8625697b0053f36a?OpenDocument
API:
C API - write your own
High-level C API - "RPG and CL Connector for Domino" -
http://www.triangle-group.com/tspweb/tspweb0920.nsf/framesetter/JNIN4LHD37RMEE686EP3
(They even have a free product that does just e-mail, see the same link
above)
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Tom Kreimer
Information Alternatives
Hi,
My requirement is to send a informational/alert mail whenever there is any
outage reported inmy AS400 Application.
Understanding the criticality of the Application it makes sense that Team
and the people involved are made aware of the issue at the earliest.
Application is on AS400
Mails through Lotus Notes.
Help or any idea will be much appreciated.
Thanks
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message: 2
date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:25:52 -0400
from: seanmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxx
subject: RE: Full-Text Indexing
Patrick,
Full text indexing all mail files and setting them to update immediately
will cause a drain on your system for sure.
You do know you could potentially double the storage used for each mail
file on the system if you include attachments in the FT index.
The CPUs will be busy all the time and you will see excessive paging in
the domino pool BASE or other private pools
since the indexing jobs will be constantly opening the databases.
There are a number of ini settings which you can use to tune the FT index
jobs
such as ftg_use_sys_memory=1 so it does not use the Domino NIF pool, and
FT_BINARY_FILTER_OFF=1
For a complete list go to the notes.ini reference site drcc.com for the
official and unofficial list of ini settings.
Curious what product you are using..........can you elaborate?
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message: 3
date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:52:45 -0500
from: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Full-Text Indexing
That's pretty much what I thought. We aren't indexing attachments, thank
goodness.
The product is called Mobile Voice by One Voice Technologies. Here's a
the
webpage. http://www.onev.com/Solutions/mobilevoice.asp From what I've
seen and heard, it works pretty slick. If we were willing to enable POP3
on our Domino server, it would probably work great for us, but we don't
want the headaches of a user setting up a POP3 client to access their mail
from home and accidentally cleaning out their entire mail file on the
first
download.
I thought I'd posted to the list on this when we first found out that it
was coming. The deal is that we have a subsidiary that is a regional
wireless provider and they are ramping up to offer this product to their
subscribers. Before we do that, they wanted people within our
organization
to have as much experience with it as possible and, of course, to get
excited about it and talk it up to subscribers and potential subscribers.
My thought is that once the initial excitement has died down, we will push
the frequency on the indexing down to hourly or less often. I think I
finally got through to the people that are all excited about it that
there's a significant downside to the road we are on. My biggest issue is
I don't play political games well, and this has been as political as
technical from the first day I heard about it.
Thanks for validating my concerns and reminding me about DRCC.com.
Have a great day!
Patrick
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Patrick,
Full text indexing all mail files and setting them to update immediately
will cause a drain on your system for sure.
You do know you could potentially double the storage used for each mail
file on the system if you include attachments in the FT index.
The CPUs will be busy all the time and you will see excessive paging in
the domino pool BASE or other private pools
since the indexing jobs will be constantly opening the databases.
There are a number of ini settings which you can use to tune the FT index
jobs
such as ftg_use_sys_memory=1 so it does not use the Domino NIF pool, and
FT_BINARY_FILTER_OFF=1
For a complete list go to the notes.ini reference site drcc.com for the
official and unofficial list of ini settings.
Curious what product you are using..........can you elaborate?
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message: 4
date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:24:11 -0500
from: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Full-Text Indexing
OK, related to my original question, I'm looking at the WRKSYSSTS screen
on
my iSeries and comparing the values to some I jotted down earlier in this
madness.
Most of the numbers are relatively close, but the Maximum unprotected
value
under Auxiliary Storage (upper right corner on my screen) has grown
considerably. What exactly does that number represent? I thought it was
a
static value indicating how much I had rather than a dynamic value that
could change over time, but I obviously had that wrong.
Thanks,
Patrick
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Patrick,
Full text indexing all mail files and setting them to update immediately
will cause a drain on your system for sure.
You do know you could potentially double the storage used for each mail
file on the system if you include attachments in the FT index.
The CPUs will be busy all the time and you will see excessive paging in
the domino pool BASE or other private pools
since the indexing jobs will be constantly opening the databases.
There are a number of ini settings which you can use to tune the FT index
jobs
such as ftg_use_sys_memory=1 so it does not use the Domino NIF pool, and
FT_BINARY_FILTER_OFF=1
For a complete list go to the notes.ini reference site drcc.com for the
official and unofficial list of ini settings.
Curious what product you are using..........can you elaborate?
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message: 5
date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:51:33 -0400
from: Robert Laing <rlaing@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Full-Text Indexing
From the InfoCenter:
Maximum unprotected storage used: The largest amount of storage for temporary objects used at any one time since the last IPL. This value is in millions (M) of bytes. Bob ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) digest list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. End of Domino400 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 183 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400.
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