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  3. January 2006

Re: Wal-Mart Bashing...Was Re: Hi

>Shifting the economy from one that 
>is manufacturing based to one that
>is services based is foolhardy.

One of my takes on this is that we have no service manners,
politeness, or courteous.  Case in point, look at the fast food
bussiness...  I do not enjoy being greeted with a "yea, what ya
want?"   or try to get assisant on a product at a place like Wally
World.   But are we any better within our own consulting services...?

Eurrat


---- Original Message ----
From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Consult400] Wal-Mart Bashing...Was Re:  Hi
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:45:41 -0600

>
>If our factories are shuttered, and the blue-collar folks are out of
>work, 
>what need will there be for on-shore tech services? I fear that we
>are 
>creating an entire generation of people who will never have a
>meaningful 
>job in their life. We are approaching the time where the major line
>of 
>business in areas that formerly provided manufacturing jobs is the 
>gang-related drug trade. Look at the south side of Chicago, Newark, 
>Philly, or the Bronx.
>
>Shifting the economy from one that is manufacturing based to one that
>is 
>services based is foolhardy.
>-- 
>
>Paul Nelson
>Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>708-670-6978  Cell
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>fbocch2595@xxxxxxx 
>Sent by: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>01/18/2006 10:33 AM
>Please respond to
>Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>To
>consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>cc
>
>Subject
>Re: [Consult400] Hi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Is it so bad that the goods are made in china?  Isn't it better that
>the 
>cheaper labor stays offshore?  I'm more interested in tech services
>going 
>offshore. 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:22:27 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>
>
>I agree...the last time I was in a Mall Wart was last summer, late at
>night in Cheyboygan, MI. Needed an air mattress and that was the only
>thing open. I'm sure it was made in China.
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Wed, January 18, 2006 8:10 am
>> To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> I won't shop there unless I absolutely have no choice. The last
>time I 
>> went into one was last summer on a Sunday in Grand Rapids, MN. I
>needed 
>12 
>> gauge shells, and the gun shop down the street was closed.
>> -- 
>> 
>> Paul Nelson
>> Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>> 708-670-6978  Cell
>> pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> Sent by: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 01/18/2006 07:06 AM
>> Please respond to
>> Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> 
>> To
>> Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> cc
>> 
>> Subject
>> Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mall Wart is the 3rd largest importer of Chinese goods.
>> 
>> 
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > Date: Wed, January 18, 2006 8:03 am
>> > To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > 
>> > No, we're not far away. Go to Wal-Mart and look at almost any
>label. 
>> > Between 1/3 and 1/2 of China's GDP flows through Wal-Mart.
>> > -- 
>> > 
>> > Paul Nelson
>> > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>> > 708-670-6978  Cell
>> > pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > fbocch2595@xxxxxxx 
>> > Sent by: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > 01/18/2006 06:21 AM
>> > Please respond to
>> > Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > To
>> > consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > cc
>> > 
>> > Subject
>> > Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > That sounds right and thank god we're far away from them! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Doug Hart <DougHart@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: 'Consulting on the iSeries / AS400' <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:54:52 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Here is the problem with companies making partnerships with
>Indian
>> > companies.
>> > 
>> > China will be a dominant world power in the next 50 years.  The 
>> preference
>> > for male children is going to make their society the first in the
>
>> history 
>> > of
>> > the world to be heavily male dominated.  This culture will likely
>be
>> > aggressive and I would not be surprised to see India as a target
>for 
>> this
>> > aggression.  If the US has heavily invested in India then we will
>be 
>> > dragged
>> > into the conflict by these political business bonds. 
>> > 
>> > What look cheap today may cost dearly in the future.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Doug Hart
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:56 PM
>> > To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400
>> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > Jack,
>> > 
>> > Who's the client? I'll add them to my list of companies that I
>boycott
>> > whenever possible.
>> > -- 
>> > 
>> > Paul Nelson
>> > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>> > 708-670-6978  Cell
>> > pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > directsystemsinc02 <directsystemsinc02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent by: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > 01/17/2006 03:41 PM
>> > Please respond to
>> > Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > To
>> > "'Consulting on the iSeries / AS400'" <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > cc
>> > 
>> > Subject
>> > Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Recently my client signed a contract with an "off shore company"
>-
>> > Alantic-Sierra for software support on both iseries and Oracle 
>software.
>> > Their prices were in the range of $29/hour for off shore people
>and 
>> $100+
>> > for resident people.  I'm still there during the transition phase
>but 
>> > expect
>> > to be looking shortly.
>> > 
>> > Jack Derham
>> > Direct Systems, Inc.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Hart
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:37 PM
>> > To: 'Consulting on the iSeries / AS400'
>> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I do high end tasks like LPAR configurations, system setups, 
>migrations,
>> > networking, security, tuning.
>> > I charge about half what Global Services does. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Doug Hart
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:consult400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Booth
>Martin
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:10 PM
>> > To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400
>> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
>> > 
>> > What are typical contractor & consultant prices that are being
>paid 
>> today?
>> > 
>> > 
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