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Re: Wal-Mart Bashing...Was Re: Hi

As I remember my college economics, a service economy was described then as "taking in each other's laundry." The point was that if we do each other's laundry and pay each other with a million dollar check does that make us millionaires? 





endofthetrail@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Shifting the economy from one that is manufacturing based to one that 
is services based is foolhardy.


One of my takes on this is that we have no service manners,
politeness, or courteous.  Case in point, look at the fast food
bussiness...  I do not enjoy being greeted with a "yea, what ya
want?"   or try to get assisant on a product at a place like Wally
World.   But are we any better within our own consulting services...?

Eurrat


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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:45:41 -0600


If our factories are shuttered, and the blue-collar folks are out of
work, what need will there be for on-shore tech services? I fear that we are creating an entire generation of people who will never have a meaningful job in their life. We are approaching the time where the major line of business in areas that formerly provided manufacturing jobs is the gang-related drug trade. Look at the south side of Chicago, Newark, Philly, or the Bronx. 

Shifting the economy from one that is manufacturing based to one that
is services based is foolhardy. 
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Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
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Is it so bad that the goods are made in china?  Isn't it better that
the cheaper labor stays offshore? I'm more interested in tech services going offshore. 
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I agree...the last time I was in a Mall Wart was last summer, late at
night in Cheyboygan, MI. Needed an air mattress and that was the only
thing open. I'm sure it was made in China.


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I won't shop there unless I absolutely have no choice. The last
time I 
went into one was last summer on a Sunday in Grand Rapids, MN. I
needed 12 
gauge shells, and the gun shop down the street was closed.
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Mall Wart is the 3rd largest importer of Chinese goods.



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No, we're not far away. Go to Wal-Mart and look at almost any
label. 
Between 1/3 and 1/2 of China's GDP flows through Wal-Mart.
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That sounds right and thank god we're far away from them! 

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Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:54:52 -0500
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Here is the problem with companies making partnerships with

Indian

companies.
China will be a dominant world power in the next 50 years. The 
preference

for male children is going to make their society the first in the
history 
of
the world to be heavily male dominated.  This culture will likely

be

aggressive and I would not be surprised to see India as a target
for 
this

aggression.  If the US has heavily invested in India then we will
be 
dragged
into the conflict by these political business bonds. 
What look cheap today may cost dearly in the future.


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Doug Hart



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Jack,

Who's the client? I'll add them to my list of companies that I

boycott

whenever possible.
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Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
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Recently my client signed a contract with an "off shore company"

-
Alantic-Sierra for software support on both iseries and Oracle 
software.

Their prices were in the range of $29/hour for off shore people
and 
$100+

for resident people.  I'm still there during the transition phase
but 
expect
to be looking shortly.

Jack Derham
Direct Systems, Inc.



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I do high end tasks like LPAR configurations, system setups, 
migrations,

networking, security, tuning.
I charge about half what Global Services does. 

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Doug Hart



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Martin

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:10 PM
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What are typical contractor & consultant prices that are being
paid 
today?


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