> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:29:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) > From: "Booth Martin" <Booth@MartinVT.com> > To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Subject: Re: [Consult400] Re: ICCA members > Reply-To: email@example.com > > That's a bit harsh isn't it Steve? > Gosh, anyone willing to improve their skills and then take a test to see if > they've figured it out should be given credit far beyond the person that's > only interest is whether or not the company's real work stops at noon on > Friday. Yes, it was little harsh. I'm sorry. I just have this thing about people having to add titles behind their names...(it's one of MY pet peeves). I don't know why, but this kind of reminds me of the day I was in Alamo Rent-a-Car at DFW airport and this guy next to me was giving the clerk at the counter a really hard time - cursing and screaming because he had to wait in line for FIVE minutes. When I asked him "Can you just be nice?" he told me to f*ck off, and when I called him an *sshole he said "You better watch what you say to me, I'm a lawyer!". So I said, "SUE ME!". If I had laid one finger on him he would have sued me...my, what a pretentious fellow he was... I have prior experience working and associating with people who carried CDP or CCP titles, and for the most part wasn't overly impressed with their skills. There wasn't anything they did better or faster than anyone else, based on my review of their work. On the other hand, I have found that some of the shyest, most unassuming people I have met without certifications or college degrees are often technically much better than many of these CCP's and CDP's. I don't display my college degrees by putting some title behind my name. It's on my resume, where it belongs, and any technical certifications that I hold that I feel relevant to the position are listed there as well. > > One of my pet peeves is that I do not like competing for projects with > programmers that are looking for consulting jobs because they can't find a > real job. I do wish there was a way I could differentiate myself from the > consultant that leaned over to me on one project and said "What's this DDS > thing they're talking about?" Testing seems like a way that I can give an > objective measure of my skill levels. I agree, in part ... I have a very low tolerance for people who bluff their way through an interview, only to land in a plum position that they really can't handle. I also have a low tolerance for those people who have 1 year of experience 10 times... I have had to clean up behind this type of bozo at least half a dozen times in the last 20 years. Often the problem is because the HR department gets involved in the hiring process and weeds out the best-qualified technical people for the wrong reasons. However, I usually manage to come out on top when I get a chance to interview with the technical manager, unless it's some young hotshot that is trying to prove himself or is intimidated by me. Many times I have found that when you are interviewing for a position it's really just a matter of being in the right place at the right time--and it really helps if you have some well-connected friends. I have benefited from both at different times. In my specialty (JDE), to distinguish yourself you also have to know the application software and the database structure in addition to having expertise with OS/400 and the languages. I also have experience in other areas both as a technical person and as a business person. I have been on both sides of the table - as a user of computer services and as a provider of computer services/systems. I don't consider myself just a programmer. I am a programmer/analyst/consultant/application specialist/performance tuning specialist/operations analyst/network specialist/SNA specialist/EDI specialist/EAI & XML specialist/wash the windows/do-whatever-you-want-me-to-do. I have worked alongside many JDE and big 6 consultants that probably have walls full of JDE and IBM and APICS certifications and when I review their code I don't see why they are worth $200.00 - $300.00 per hour when I do as good or better quality work for less than $100.00 per hour. When I was working at Blockbuster Video in 1989-1990 in Dallas I was billing $ 50.00 per hour. Andersen Consulting was billing $ 75.00-$100.00 per hour for just-hired college graduates and had ME teaching them JDE and the AS/400. By the way, I haven't held a "real" job since 1988, when the AS/400 was introduced. That is the year I cofounded my consulting firm. Also - the only times I have not worked in the last 14 years were the times I chose not to work in order to have time with my family. Over that 14-year period of time I have also probably averaged 2000 or more billable hours per year. This is more like a hobby to me than a job! I have boot-strapped my way to where I am today. I am different. I differentiate myself from others every day. I am very motivated to succeed. Once I figured out what I wanted to do when I grow up, I never looked back. You might wonder how I ended up as a programmer, since my college degrees (BBA/MS) were not particularly computer-related. I probably have as many college hours in systems analysis and programming as many computer science or MIS graduates. I quit before I finished my second Masters degree in Information Systems. I had a 4.0 GPA after completing 24 semester hours toward this degree. I finally decided that I had to get on with my life and spend my effort towards making money rather than finishing the degree (in 1984), and I have never regretted it. Steve Landess Austin, Texas (512) 423-0935
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