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Sound like the LPEX team needs to be taken behind the programming woodshed. Clearly the design is flawed: it's bad enough we're being forced into the same blue "application development tool" suit (read "lowest common denominator"); now we find we're stuck with shoddy development and programming practices. Maybe the person making the decision to allow this rubbish ought to try coding (CODE'ing) on a regular basis to find out what it's like at the sharp end of the stick. It's "free"? Free for whom? The LPEX design might have been appropriate years ago, but in the era of gigahertz PC's and Windows 2000, I find it hard to believe "performance reasons" is anything other than a CMA ("cover my ***") excuse. Let me make sure I understand this: we're talking about IBM's enterprise-wide text editing solution? I wonder if the LPEX team actually uses their product... With code like this, it's easy to understand why it's impossible to keep CODE up on a WAN or dial-up for more than two hours without losing your source in TMP with some meaningless name. I'd hate to know what's really going on inside my favorite piece of code, EVFCTCPD.exe. We might live in a house or we might live in a high-rise apartment. What makes IBM think we should be using the same tools or techniques to construct them? If Microsoft introduced non-standard behavior like this, we'd be howling. Oh, that's right...we are! Let me go recover my source and attempt to make some money so I can feed the doggies. -reeve -----Original Message----- From: code400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:code400-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of batthish@ca.ibm.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:48 AM To: code400-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: Code Extras I think I need to clarify the design, since everyone seems to be commenting on it. 1) When you click the 'X', CODE Editor does not CLOSE. The window is merely hidden. This is by design for PERFORMANCE reasons, and will not be changed. 2) When you do File->Exit, all editor processes are terminated and settings are saved at that point. 3) If you "closed" the window using the 'X' and then shut down your machine, the settings may not be saved as the operating system may abnormally terminate the editor process, rather than asking it nicely to close. 4) This behaviour comes to us "free" from the base editor that CODE builds upon. I have requested that they change this behaviour, they have changed some settings so that they get remembered, but they refuse to do this for all settings for performance reasons. Whether the CODE team will be able to override the base editor behaviour isn't known right now. I have heard this complaint before and we have heard your opinions here again and we see that the general consensus is to save the settings "live" so that even when the 'X' is pressed, settings are remembered. We will try our best to get CODE Editor to behave itself. Thanks, Violaine Batthish CODE Project Lead batthish@ca.ibm.com IBMCA(BATTHISH) WDT/400 page: http://www.ibm.com/software/ad/wdt400 WDT/400 Support : http://www.ibm.com/software/ad/wdt400/support "Ric A. LuBell" <rlubell@iointerna To: code400-l@midrange.com tional.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Code Extras code400-l-admin@mi drange.com 10/21/2002 11:09 AM Please respond to code400-l If you want an escape, then design in a question on exit or a check next to a "Save on Exit" parameter under the File menu, like Client Access does. Don't, however, try to sell a flaw as a feature... it diminishes your credibility! Sincerely, Ric LuBell I/O International, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: haklui@ca.ibm.com [mailto:haklui@ca.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:21 AM To: code400-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: Code Extras >>>I was hitting the big X button on the top right of windows, but if I use >>>File -> Exit it saves the settings. First of all, I do not know if it has been purposely designed this way or not. Of course, I cannot make any excuses to say that it cannot be done easily. However, personally, I would prefer to leave the design as is, since it provides me an escape, not to save my current session settings sometimes, in my daily work. 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