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Craig - are you refreshing cache _every_ time you verify? as opposed to when you know the file has changed? I use caching all the time and get 1 and 2 second responses on the verify other than when I refresh. I suspect (can someone from IBM - Michele ? - please confirm this) that the refresh option refreshes _all_ files in your cache and not just those used by your program. If this is the case it may explain your problem a refresh will take forever. If this is the case - you could take a leaf out of VARPG's book and have multiple cache files. You will have to manage it yourself by renaming the cache directory, but this could easily be done by a Rexx macro that could be attached to a pull-down with multiple "environments" specified. As to a 400 based verifier being faster, I doubt it. Michele would know for sure but a NoGen compile is basically what the verifier is. It is perhaps a little leaner and meaner but I think you should probably accept that there are just some things that a PC is faster at <grin> What we really need is for IBM to step up and improve the retrieval and caching speed so this becomes a moot point. Jon Paris Partner400
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