Re: *** ADMIN: AOL.COM users no longer allowed to post

On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 09:46 -0400, Steve Richter wrote:

what I do not understand is why does the mail sent by a listserv have to
say it is being sent from a yahoo or AOL server? I see that messages from
the midrange.com listserv say they are from the email account that posted
the message to midrange-l. When that message is broadcast to all the
subscribers on the list, the subscribers who are yahoo or AOL are going to
reject those messages because those servers say the message is not from
yahoo or AOL.

Is that correct? Can the listserv broadcast the messages posted to it as
from the listserv? That would also solve the problem of a member of the
listserv having their email address broadcast on the internet everytime
they post a message to a discussion group.

There is a "correct" way to do it, from what I've read, but it needs the
listsrv to be setup correctly to modify some fields in a special way and
also requires the listsrv can modify in the "correct way."

I'm going from memory here, although I read what should happen a few
days ago.

The "from address" should be modified to the listsrv address.
The "reply to address" should be modified to be the original from
address, and the listsrv address should also be included here.
There is another address type/code type that should be set to denote
this is a listsrv message.

This means that reply all sends to the listsrv and originator.
reply list should be to the list only.

one problem is that most email programs default to reply all as the
"group reply" so when you get 2 messages for every one sent (useful if
you don't subscribe to the list, but post to it and it allows
unregistered posting access)

There is slightly more to the above, but this is all I can remember for
now... (there might even be a problem with putting the original posters
email in the reply to?? but I think there might be a different box to
put it into eg "listsrv posting originator address" or some such.)

Some mailing lists have changed how the messages are changed and then
re-sent to avoid the problem... but the biggest problem seems to be that
yahoo just went ahead and changed the rules to reject, and very few
people were ready for it.

If more follow suit and mailsrvrs don't make changes then the problem is
only going to get worse, rejecting posts by specific mail domains is
only a stop gap measure.

-Steve



On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:29 PM, David Gibbs <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Folks:

Looks like AOL is joining Yahoo in a joint effort to destroy significant
parts of the internet.

According to this blog post:
http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/,
they are making the same change that Yahoo did. As such, this will cause
any posts by AOL users to be rejected by Gmail, Hotmail, Comcast, Gmail,
Yahoo, & AOL.

At the present time, my only course of action is to prevent AOL and Yahoo
users from being able to post to any midrange.com lists.

If you use Yahoo or AOL, please consider switching to Gmail or Hotmail for
midrange.com mailing list subscriptions.

As always, if you have any questions, contact me at support@xxxxxxxxxxxx.

david

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