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RE: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting, but compileswithout error



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You have my sympathies, Alan, but I must say that your experience
differs greatly from mine. Sure, there are always dinosaurs who don't
want to change, but they are the ones who will find difficulties getting
new positions when their intractability leads them to be the first let
go during the next round of layoffs...

Trevor Briggs
Analyst/Programmer
Lincare, Inc.
(727) 431-1246
TBriggs2@xxxxxxxxxxx

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Campin
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:13 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting, but
compileswithout error

In practical fact it means nothing. The people at my work are still
using
data structures to convert dates, moves, six character variables and
fixed
format to write new code. What does the whole thing mean to them,
practically nothing because they are still writing RPG III and don't
even
use the built-in functions and that is going to be true in most iSeries
shops including my previous company and previous company and previous
company over the last 20 years since ILE and RPG IV was released.




On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

IBM Decided to spend their money on one tool that has vastly more
capability and more opportunity for enhancement. It's also based on
tools used for other languages so it's familiar to many many more
developers than SEU.

Were IBM to continue to maintain both tools there would be either
fewer
features in RDi or both it and SEU would be more expensive.

And there is no force. You can continue to utilize SEU for your
editing
you will simply find that you are becoming less and less efficient
while
with RDi you become more and more efficient.

IBM Quit manufacturing AS/400s and then iSeries and then System i.
They
didn't do so to force you to buy a Power System they did so because
Power Systems are far superior in capability and performance. You can
still run an AS/400 (and some DO!) but you'll spend much more money
for
the same performance.

As to the cost, that argument doesn't hold water for me. It's like a
builder who refuses to purchase an air-nailer for his carpenter
because
it's expensive and the hammer he already owns still works.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 4/18/2014 12:00 AM, Alan Campin wrote:

No, IBM decided to force people to buy RDi by stopping to update SEU
with
new releases. I am using at work great but you have to buy and a lot
companies won't buy.
On Apr 17, 2014 9:49 PM, "John Yeung" <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
There was a time when IBM created FSEDIT. It was warmly welcomed
because
it was such an improvement over the SEU of the time.

Now we get awesome tools like RDi and we bash them? I don't get
it.

I don't see anyone actually bashing RDi, so I guess you mean folks
are
bashing IBM. Well, perhaps the situation is different now, but I
don't know. Was FSEDIT expensive and SEU out of date with respect
to
the compiler?

John

On 4/17/2014 10:49 PM, Alan Campin wrote:

SEU frozen at v6r1. Anything above that level will not work.
Stinks
big
time. Have to get RDI if you want syntax checking.
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