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Re: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting, but compiles without error



fixed

Paul

Does CA 2E 9 have a plugin for RDi? RDi is directed more at native coding.

Depending on your OS version, you may have seats of ADTS - these can be converted to RDi seats and then there will be annual maintenance. Check with your business partner for details.It cost us about 600 per last year for 4 seats. We have up to 25. WRKLICINF will let you know if you have those seats.

RDi is at v9.0 now - IBM's site is http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/dev-ibm-i - on that site, look for the "Rational Developer for i Resources" section - watch the Youtubes there, see the webcasts, there's a nice data sheet for your manager, perhaps.

They give a price there of 787 - pay no attention to that - it's for a fixed-term (one-year) license that doesn't renew, and that is usually not the best license to get - break-even if you get a standard license is 2-3 years, including paying maintenance.

There is also the option of getting RDi through Passport Advantage - we did ours through our BP, which can simplify things, but PA has some advantages - like automatic notification when maintenance has to be renewed.

You can go to http://www.systemideveloper.com and look for resources there - that is Jon Paris & Susan Gantner and Paul Tuohy's site. In the download tab there are keyboard shortcuts and a quick start document that would help after getting into it.

Subscribe to the WDSC-L list here at midrange.com - that's a better place to get information and stuff to show your manager.

HTH
Vern

On 4/18/2014 11:55 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
Thanks for all the RDI input.
We use CA 2E 9 (formerly Synon) for 95% our RPGLE coding.
If we decided to review RDI, which version, and how much, I saw several versions.
Several years ago, we had a one site license, version 7.5 or 7.6, only used by one programmer for a special project.
I think it was visual basic related.
The visual basic was converted to something newer, RDI no longer used, and dropped.
Any good RDI links I could review.
Also need a good RDI write-up to send to my manager.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Campin
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:36 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting, but compiles without error

<<One wonders if they still use candles to light their workspaces>> Only if it is 6 characters.

No, as I said in a previous post, I think the opposite. Quit worrying about dragging along the people who have no interest and clean spec RPG.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It's even worse when, with the exception of a few who have been
appointed to management positions, the inmates are on the other side
of the world, but that's a different discussion.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 409-267-4027
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 10:38 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting,but
compiles without error

Then shame on the management for letting the inmates run the asylum.


On 2014-04-18, at 1:45 AM, Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Most places it isnt the companies. Its the programmers who refuse
to change. They yell so loud that the company says only rpg 3 coding
allowed.
On Apr 17, 2014 11:28 PM, "DrFranken" <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Then SEU will continue to work for you. If you are maintaining old
code then an old editor will work as it always has.

The question is why do so many companies hold back their developers?
What value is there in keeping people from using better tools to
become more efficient and write better code?

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 4/18/2014 1:13 AM, Alan Campin wrote:

In practical fact it means nothing. The people at my work are
still
using
data structures to convert dates, moves, six character variables
and
fixed
format to write new code. What does the whole thing mean to them,
practically nothing because they are still writing RPG III and
don't
even
use the built-in functions and that is going to be true in most
iSeries shops including my previous company and previous company
and previous company over the last 20 years since ILE and RPG IV was released.




On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM, DrFranken
<midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
IBM Decided to spend their money on one tool that has vastly more
capability and more opportunity for enhancement. It's also based
on tools used for other languages so it's familiar to many many
more developers than SEU.

Were IBM to continue to maintain both tools there would be either
fewer
features in RDi or both it and SEU would be more expensive.

And there is no force. You can continue to utilize SEU for your
editing
you will simply find that you are becoming less and less
efficient
while
with RDi you become more and more efficient.

IBM Quit manufacturing AS/400s and then iSeries and then System i.
They
didn't do so to force you to buy a Power System they did so
because Power Systems are far superior in capability and
performance. You can still run an AS/400 (and some DO!) but
you'll spend much more money
for
the same performance.

As to the cost, that argument doesn't hold water for me. It's
like a builder who refuses to purchase an air-nailer for his
carpenter
because
it's expensive and the hammer he already owns still works.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 4/18/2014 12:00 AM, Alan Campin wrote:

No, IBM decided to force people to buy RDi by stopping to update
SEU
with
new releases. I am using at work great but you have to buy and a
lot companies won't buy.
On Apr 17, 2014 9:49 PM, "John Yeung"
<gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM, DrFranken
<midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
There was a time when IBM created FSEDIT. It was warmly
welcomed
because
it was such an improvement over the SEU of the time.

Now we get awesome tools like RDi and we bash them? I don't get it.
I don't see anyone actually bashing RDi, so I guess you mean
folks
are
bashing IBM. Well, perhaps the situation is different now, but
I don't know. Was FSEDIT expensive and SEU out of date with
respect
to
the compiler?

John

On 4/17/2014 10:49 PM, Alan Campin wrote:

SEU frozen at v6r1. Anything above that level will not work.
Stinks
big
time. Have to get RDI if you want syntax checking.
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