It sounds as bad as the EPA requirements. One of my clients handles
hazardous waste materials. The EPA can swoop in at any time. Even worse, if
something is deemed a level X hazard today, and it was a level X-1
yesterday, my client has to produce copies of the original paperwork, go
locate and dig up the material, and re-process it as a level X material.

The Russians had the right idea with their chemical weapon materiel when
they were leaving Afghanistan. They just stuck in way in the back of the
closest cave and hoped nobody would find it until later (we did, and so did
the Taliban). But that's a story for another time.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 409-267-4027

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of franz400
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:17 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: appliance and cloud backup


In the insurance industry, claim benefits can often be lifetime (dependent
upon type of claim, state/federal laws, and legal actions like the asbestos
claims still being litigated). We have claims decades old, and still
receiving benefits. We have the optical juke box for many platters plus a
large amount in IFS. CM supports both individual images in their directories

or virtual optical (which looks like an optical juke box and platter to the
system). The virtual optical is much more efficient because it is one object

to save, but has thousands of images in it, versus saving thousands of
individual images.
The san option is desirable, but there is an investment over and above the
disk drives to get there, and then add the DR/HA & backup of that.
We've looked at WebDocs and other options, but then that gets into the
already existing workflow app, which is extensive.
Jim Franz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Schoen" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: appliance and cloud backup


Are the optical platters old images ? What type of business ?

In most cases you shouldn't need to have more than 7 years online.

Does CM support restoring to the standard IFS structures or only virtual
optical ?

Just get ready for SLOOOOW IFS backup times after restoring millions of
images unless the Virtual Optical blobs are easier to back up.

You'll probably want a backup strategy where you don't back up the
non-changing stuff very often since it should be static.

We have customers using our WebDocs software where we have replaced CM
installations and they can now store all their images on inexpensive
NAS/SAN disk and can access them directly via NFS shares from the SAN.

Before you go through all the labor of loading up OLD docs make sure the
compliance laws say you have to have them.

Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc.
Where Information Meets Innovation
Document Management, Workflow, Report Delivery, Forms and Business
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Tel: (952) 736-5800
Fax: (952) 736-5801
Toll Free: (888) RJSSOFT


message: 5
date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 19:52:33 -0500
from: "franz400" <franz400@xxxxxxx>
subject: Re: appliance and cloud backup

We do not have BRMS, but that is in the plan.
The 2 partitions are currently 750Gb and 2.3Tb with an additional 1.5 Tb
to be restored soon (using Content Manager for images, and
converting what's on optical platters to virtual optical ).

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