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said they have. What I said was they've modified the file layouts,
which
you agree they have. Would it be so terrible if they did modify a
field
format? For example, would it have been worse to modify the format of
the
object size field instead of the stupid "if the size field is all nines
then take some other field and multiply by yet another field to
calculate
object size"?
Rob Berendt
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From: "Dennis Lovelady" <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/24/2010 04:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem solved, Re: Sorting DSPOBJD outfile by
ascending date
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Well, it's a pretty important allegation that IBM have historically
changed
some (any) record format. Especially in the way you are describing
(repurposing or reformatting a field). They have, many times, added to
the
record layouts (QADSPOBJ - the output format for DSPOBJD has been
through
many changes), but the kind of change you are describing is vastly
different
from that. And if you actually read those MTU I think you'll find that
to
be the case.
As far as I know, IBM have maintained compatibility for all output
files
all
the way back to V1 (and indeed to the S/38). So, I say again: what
files
were changed and when?
Dennis Lovelady
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennislovelady
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I think it's a standard line in most Memo To Users about which outputmultiple
file
formats got changed with a release.
Since I am constantly staying on the latest releases, and have
partitions to support, not all partitions are immediately on the newI
release. (Gotta sleep sometime.) Therefore the utilities that I use
which span releases cannot be dependent on formats in output files.
API's
are my approach.
Rob Berendt
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From: "Dennis Lovelady" <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/24/2010 02:16 PM
Subject: RE: Problem solved, Re: Sorting DSPOBJD outfile by
ascending date
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This is interesting, Rob! What and when?
Has IBM changed output file
formats in the past? Yes.
If we were all using APIs instead of DSPOBJD (as you say the vendors
who
do
it right are doing), this would be a non-issue, so why do we care?
Personally, I stopped using DSPOBJD except for Q&D CL back in V2R3.
thought everyone had.change
Dennis Lovelady
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Tried to play my shoehorn... all I got was footnotes!
Personally I don't care WHY it works that way. Wish it weredifferent.
True date field would be best. Second best would be YYYYMMDD.
Disruptive? Yes. If they changed it would customers have to
thingscode?
Yes. Do I care? No. Would vendors care? Not those that do
outputright and use list api's instead of outfiles. Has IBM changed
byfilel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
formats in the past? Yes.
Have you submitted a DCR? Has anyone else? Have I (on this)? No.
Rob Berendt
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From: "Mark S. Waterbury" <mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-
Date: 06/24/2010 12:33 PMbut
Subject: Re: Problem solved, Re: Sorting DSPOBJD outfile by
ascending date
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Hi, James:
Ouch! I even tried CHGSYSVAL QDATFMT 'YMD' and then ran my DSPOBJD,
to no avail...
I thought that someone would have entered a PMR or DCR about this
mailingnowstrange
... And what about all the folks in countries where MDY is not the
popular choice for date format? This seems to have been a very
choice by IBM.in
Does anyone know why this works this way?
Thanks,
Mark
> On 6/24/2010 11:35 AM, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
Mark S. Waterbury wrote:
Just issue:That was the very first thing I tried. Only the "Display Date" is
CHGJOB JOB(*) DATFMT(*YMD)
Then run your DSPOBJD command.
job
date format.
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