RE: Which group PTFs do we need? -- MIDRANGE-L

I agree, db. But actually, I think there is something along hte same liness - on the Fix Central site there is an option to get a customized cumulative fix package. This works against your machine. I think you have to have run various inventories in Navigator. Of course, that is not going to help with group PTFs, but it can reduce the size & number of the cume CDs. There's [rpbably more info somewhere around that Fix Central site.

HTH
Vern

At 09:14 AM 10/26/2004, you wrote:

Found it.  Thanks Vern.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a page to check off boxes for the products
you have, and automagically have all of the cover letters for the
appropriate recommended fixes downloaded to your PC?  Instead of having to
go to a drop down list, and click on each individual PTF to see whether it
applies to your environment?

Well, I'm going to have to just send this to our system operator and let her
dig through this.

db

> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx / Vernon Hamberg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:32 AM
>
> Each group has its own set of CDs - they are not consolidated.
>
> I would not order everything - if you do not have WAS at all, don't do
> those. If you have WAS ND 5.1, you might also want normal WAS 5.1 - but
> someone at your shop should know what you have. ND is, as I
> understand it,
> kind of a layer above the normal part. But others will know
> better - I just
> remember fighting with this in an exploratory way.
>
> "Recommended fixes" -
>
> Go to <www.iseries.ibm.com/support>.
>
> On the left, click on "Fixes".
>
> In the main section, the last item is "Recommended fixes".
>
> That's it. In that section, also, the 3rd item is a guide to
> fixes that can
> be very helpful.
>
> ENJOY!
> Vern
>
> At 08:12 AM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
> > > Welcome to the rat's nest.
> >
> >Yeah, that about sums it up!
> >
> >So, if we just order all of the groups, will they be consolidated on one
> >CD-ROM (or however many needed)?  Or will our operator be forced
> to load 19
> >CD-ROMs, one for each group?
> >
> >If they're cosolidated, no problem, I'll just order them all.  Otherwise,
> >I'll have to be a little more selective.
> >
> >Vern, I did not see any link to "Recommended Fixes".  Can you narrow that
> >down a bit more?
> >
> >tia,
> >db
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx / Vernon Hamberg
> > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:31 PM
> > >
> > > I've been digging around this tuff awhile, so I've picked up
> little bits
> > > along the way. TA, LD, and SR are functional areas of LIC or
> > > OS/400. TA is
> > > tape, LD is load/dump (low-level names for save/restore), and
> SR is what
> > > you think it is. These are often the 2nd and 3rd letters of
> > > object names -
> > > do WRKOBJ QTA*, e.g. LD is an exception, as it refers to functions or
> > > modules in LIC, not an object we normally can see.
> > >
> > > The good news is, only those that apply to your system will be
> > > applied when
> > > you process the PTF. The bad news is, you need to order the whole
> > > thing --
> > > same as cumes, which always have much more than you need.
> > >
> > > "520 WebSphere App Server ND V5.0" is the "Network
> Deployment" version of
> > > WAS - these are the PTFs for v5r2m0 of OS/400 that support
> that product.
> > >
> > > I always got HIPER, database (DB2 UDB), Java, & HTTP Server.
> > > Get  Performance Tools if you have it. And I guess now you want
> > > BRMS, et al.
> > >
> > > The rest of it is whatever you have installed.
> > >
> > > But this is not all - on the Fixes site you should look at the
> > > Recommended
> > > Fixes. There are things there that I've thought should be in a
> > > group - like
> > > the telnet PTFs or the print PTFs - but they are not. Others
> are optional
> > > things but useful or needed for certain situations - just saw
> something
> > > that changes CPYFRMIMPF at V5R3 back to act as if at V5R2.
> > >
> > > Welcome to the rat's nest.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Vern
> > >
> > > At 04:17 PM 10/25/2004, you wrote:
> > > >How does one tell whether they need a certain PTF group?
> "Work with PTF
> > > >Groups" on our v5r2 box shows 4 groups:
> > > >   SF99519
> > > >   SF99502
> > > >   SF99169
> > > >   SF99098
> > > >
> > > >However, when I go to the PSP site for group PTFs, there are 19
> > > groups!  I
> > > >looked at some of the detail and can't find useful
> references to LPP id's
> > > >that would tell you whether you need it or not.  I looked at the
> > > "SF99085:
> > > >520 520 Backup Recovery Solutions" and can't tell if this is
> strictly for
> > > >BRMS shops or what.  A snip from the group site:
> > > >
> > > >   Description:  BRMS, TA, LD, SR and now LPAR Group PTF
> > > >   Product: 5722SS1, 572299, 57222BR1
> > > >
> > > >(BTW, that is "sic"; I copy/pasted the above; see the Product:)
> > > >
> > > >We do not have BRMS, however what is "TA, LD, SR"?  Is SR =
> > > "Save/Restore"?
> > > >If so, then that would be everybody, right?
> > > >
> > > >And SF99085 might be an easy one if every shop needs it.  What
> > > product would
> > > >I need to look for to see if I should install group SF99246 (520
> > > WebSphere
> > > >App Server ND V5.0)?  The detail on that doesn't even show a
> product ID.
> > > >
> > > >Advice and RTFM links appreciated!
> > > >
> > > >db

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