Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

Tim,

I haven't done it, and I'm just guessing it should be a
possibility if the browser has the capabilities.

XML is close.  It could be that, but it can also be pure
data, or CSV.  You can stream with eRPG to a palm, or you
can upload with RPG via a Form in HTML.  I've done both with
a PC, so I'm just guessing the possibility is there unless
the TCP data stream for a Palm is whacko.

Brad

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:54:14 -0700
 "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net> wrote:
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader
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> Now i'm curious...  how can I use erpg, to communicate
> with palm, through
> the http server?  Were not talking about a normal web
> page here, so i'm
> lost...
>
> How would I push my palm data to http server?  Or do I
> create a new http
> instance just for palm apps?  And then send all the data
> in one html page?
>
> I'm grasping at straws right now, on what your talking
> about... or even the
> socket logistics of the process, please elaborate a
> little more....
>
>
> p.s. I have never done xml, but I have a feeling were
> heading in that
> direction a little...
>
> thanks,
> tim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Brad Stone [SMTP:brad@bvstools.com]
> > Sent:       Friday, September 07, 2001 1:53 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject:    Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> >
> > This makes sense, Tim.  But the communications is the
> > biggest thing.  That could be done with eRPG.  The palm
> > programming will have to be done with PalmOS or
> whatever
> > they call it now.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:30:36 -0700
> >  "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net> wrote:
> > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail
> reader
> > > does not understand
> > > this format, some or all of this message may not be
> > > legible.
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > I guess to put everyone on the same page, I guess
> i'll
> > > explain the app i'm
> > > working on...
> > >
> > > right now, I have a nice time tracker/project manager
> > > that runs online via
> > > the http server on our as/400... written with rpg-cgi
> and
> > > with some net.data
> > > scripts... It works great any everyone likes it :-)
> > > However, some people
> > > would like the fexibility to download to their palm,
> > > there timesheet, with
> > > all their projects so they can keep track of them on
> the
> > > palm, and then with
> > > the ability to merge/synce the data back to the time
> > > tracker... So for the
> > > palm, I can't write the system thinking there
> connected
> > > to the network, it
> > > has to be portable off the network, and then will
> resync
> > > back up, when they
> > > put the pda back on the cradle...  So my theory was
> this,
> > > a (conduit) or
> > > whatever to download the db2 files that are relevant
> to
> > > that pda's owner...
> > > and then an app on the palm to edit/modify/delete
> their
> > > time... and then
> > > when set back on the cradle it will send to the 400
> their
> > > new changes, and
> > > It will trigger a utility to merge the uploaded data
> into
> > > our master
> > > files...
> > >
> > > So in this type of environment, I didn't think i
> could
> > > use wml/hdml, or
> > > sockets...  I could use sockets once I was connected
> to
> > > the cradle, but I
> > > believe that only works with serial connection
> cradles...
> > > so I figured
> > > writing a ftp hack was out... (if I was using a modem
> it
> > > would be a very
> > > serious option)...  so my next approach is some type
> of
> > > conduit I believe...
> > > but i'm not totally sure yet.... Still learning....
> > >
> > > hope this helps, and if you have more ideas, I'm very
> > > willing to
> > > listen/read...
> > >
> > > thanks for all the nice ideas so far..
> > >
> > > tim
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:   Brad Stone [SMTP:brad@bvstools.com]
> > > > Sent:   Friday, September 07, 2001 1:15 PM
> > > > To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
> > > > Subject:        Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> > > >
> > > > Tim,
> > > >
> > > > What type of markup language does a palm use?  If
> it's
> > > WML
> > > > or HDML, then you can use eRPG.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to download a simulator, they're
> available
> > > out
> > > > there.  Let me know know if WML is the way you want
> to
> > > go
> > > > and I can help from there.  It's going to be a
> section
> > > in my
> > > > new book.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:47:07 -0700
> > > >  "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail
> > > reader
> > > > > does not understand
> > > > > this format, some or all of this message may not
> be
> > > > > legible.
> > > > > --
> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > > You bring up a point that I havn't been able to
> > > resolve
> > > > > yet... Personally I
> > > > > do not have a pda yet, I was asked to code for
> the
> > > palm
> > > > > version... But if I
> > > > > was to buy one for personal use I would lean
> towards
> > > the
> > > > > pocketpc...  But
> > > > > since I work in the medical field, it seems all
> the
> > > > > doctors use palms, so
> > > > > thats why I need to code a palm version...
> > > > >
> > > > > but any how... I'm going to look at the different
> > > options
> > > > > suggested, and see
> > > > > what I can come up with...
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess would be to use a development system
> that
> > > > > supports both palm and
> > > > > wince, so I only have to write the app once with
> just
> > > > > minor modifications
> > > > > (if that's possible)
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks...tim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:       Steve Richter
> [SMTP:srichter@AutoCoder.com]
> > > > > > Sent:       Friday, September 07, 2001 10:41 AM
> > > > > > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > > > > > Subject:    Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A front page article in the wall street journal
> > > today
> > > > > re palm and its
> > > > > > recent
> > > > > > problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like palm is blowing its lead. They think
> > > they
> > > > > can do it all.
> > > > > > hardware
> > > > > > and software.  End result:  palm market share
> down,
> > > > > windows pocket pc up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another example, ( apple, palm, our as400 )
> where a
> > > > > platform that has the
> > > > > > hardware and software controlled by the same
> entity
> > > is
> > > > > at a long term
> > > > > > disadvantage to a platform where the os is
> > > controled by
> > > > > one company and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > hardware by another.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Richter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Hatzenbeler, Tim
> <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net>
> > > > > > To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> > > <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > > > > > Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >This message is in MIME format. Since your
> mail
> > > reader
> > > > > does not
> > > > > > understand
> > > > > > >this format, some or all of this message may
> not
> > > be
> > > > > legible.
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative
> ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I was asked to create a small portable version
> of
> > > an
> > > > > applications that I
> > > > > > >have on our as/400, but for a palm pda...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I was wondering if anybody has tried it...
> Writing
> > > the
> > > > > app, doesn't look
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > >hard, but transferring the database or a
> subset of
> > > the
> > > > > data ie: select *
> > > > > > >from ..... where user = 'tim' or being able to
> > > push
> > > > > the changed data back
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >the as/400 to be resynced into the master
> files,
> > > is
> > > > > where I'm stuck...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Any help, ideas or code would be tremendously
> > > > > appreciated...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >p.s.  if this is off (list) topic, please
> e-mail
> > > me
> > > > > directly...  Thanks,
> > > > > > >again...tim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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