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This makes sense, Tim.  But the communications is the
biggest thing.  That could be done with eRPG.  The palm
programming will have to be done with PalmOS or whatever
they call it now.

Brad

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:30:36 -0700
 "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net> wrote:
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader
> does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be
> legible.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I guess to put everyone on the same page, I guess i'll
> explain the app i'm
> working on...
>
> right now, I have a nice time tracker/project manager
> that runs online via
> the http server on our as/400... written with rpg-cgi and
> with some net.data
> scripts... It works great any everyone likes it :-)
> However, some people
> would like the fexibility to download to their palm,
> there timesheet, with
> all their projects so they can keep track of them on the
> palm, and then with
> the ability to merge/synce the data back to the time
> tracker... So for the
> palm, I can't write the system thinking there connected
> to the network, it
> has to be portable off the network, and then will resync
> back up, when they
> put the pda back on the cradle...  So my theory was this,
> a (conduit) or
> whatever to download the db2 files that are relevant to
> that pda's owner...
> and then an app on the palm to edit/modify/delete their
> time... and then
> when set back on the cradle it will send to the 400 their
> new changes, and
> It will trigger a utility to merge the uploaded data into
> our master
> files...
>
> So in this type of environment, I didn't think i could
> use wml/hdml, or
> sockets...  I could use sockets once I was connected to
> the cradle, but I
> believe that only works with serial connection cradles...
> so I figured
> writing a ftp hack was out... (if I was using a modem it
> would be a very
> serious option)...  so my next approach is some type of
> conduit I believe...
> but i'm not totally sure yet.... Still learning....
>
> hope this helps, and if you have more ideas, I'm very
> willing to
> listen/read...
>
> thanks for all the nice ideas so far..
>
> tim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Brad Stone [SMTP:brad@bvstools.com]
> > Sent:       Friday, September 07, 2001 1:15 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject:    Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > What type of markup language does a palm use?  If it's
> WML
> > or HDML, then you can use eRPG.
> >
> > If you want to download a simulator, they're available
> out
> > there.  Let me know know if WML is the way you want to
> go
> > and I can help from there.  It's going to be a section
> in my
> > new book.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:47:07 -0700
> >  "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net> wrote:
> > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail
> reader
> > > does not understand
> > > this format, some or all of this message may not be
> > > legible.
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > You bring up a point that I havn't been able to
> resolve
> > > yet... Personally I
> > > do not have a pda yet, I was asked to code for the
> palm
> > > version... But if I
> > > was to buy one for personal use I would lean towards
> the
> > > pocketpc...  But
> > > since I work in the medical field, it seems all the
> > > doctors use palms, so
> > > thats why I need to code a palm version...
> > >
> > > but any how... I'm going to look at the different
> options
> > > suggested, and see
> > > what I can come up with...
> > >
> > > My guess would be to use a development system that
> > > supports both palm and
> > > wince, so I only have to write the app once with just
> > > minor modifications
> > > (if that's possible)
> > >
> > > thanks...tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:   Steve Richter [SMTP:srichter@AutoCoder.com]
> > > > Sent:   Friday, September 07, 2001 10:41 AM
> > > > To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
> > > > Subject:        Re: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> > > >
> > > > A front page article in the wall street journal
> today
> > > re palm and its
> > > > recent
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like palm is blowing its lead. They think
> they
> > > can do it all.
> > > > hardware
> > > > and software.  End result:  palm market share down,
> > > windows pocket pc up.
> > > >
> > > > Another example, ( apple, palm, our as400 ) where a
> > > platform that has the
> > > > hardware and software controlled by the same entity
> is
> > > at a long term
> > > > disadvantage to a platform where the os is
> controled by
> > > one company and
> > > > the
> > > > hardware by another.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Richter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hatzenbeler, Tim <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net>
> > > > To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Palm PDA <--> as/400
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail
> reader
> > > does not
> > > > understand
> > > > >this format, some or all of this message may not
> be
> > > legible.
> > > > >--
> > > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > >
> > > > >I was asked to create a small portable version of
> an
> > > applications that I
> > > > >have on our as/400, but for a palm pda...
> > > > >
> > > > >I was wondering if anybody has tried it... Writing
> the
> > > app, doesn't look
> > > > too
> > > > >hard, but transferring the database or a subset of
> the
> > > data ie: select *
> > > > >from ..... where user = 'tim' or being able to
> push
> > > the changed data back
> > > > to
> > > > >the as/400 to be resynced into the master files,
> is
> > > where I'm stuck...
> > > > >
> > > > >Any help, ideas or code would be tremendously
> > > appreciated...
> > > > >
> > > > >p.s.  if this is off (list) topic, please e-mail
> me
> > > directly...  Thanks,
> > > > >again...tim
> > > > >
> > > > >
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