Re: Ethernet x-over cable

Brad wrote:
> I disagree.  It's not illegal, it's simply not liked by the cable
companies.
Huh?  It really doesn't matter if you agree or not.  It doesn't matter if I
agree or not.

If  the cable company says "to share a single IP among
several PCs costs an additional $10/PC", it really doesn't matter if you
agree.

> It's nothing like a cheater box.  You can't go out and buy a cheater box
at
> k-mart.  You can buy internet sharing software.
OK, you can't buy a cheater box at Kmart.  You can buy networking supplies.
What does this have to do with having to pay for what the access provider
states?
Just because the networking supplies are easy to get,
doesn't mean your using them in a "legal" manner.
(Absurd example: You could buy tools at Kmart, and go steal hubcaps with
them.)

Once again, I'm not stating that I agree with the policy.
My post started as a reply to the original post about a cable company's
perceived
unwillingness  to hook up multiple PCs to a single connection.

Someone's ability to get around the policy was never within the scope of my
answer.
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Stone, Brad V (TC) <bvstone@taylorcorp.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Ethernet x-over cable


> Which is why there is a TON of software out there you can buy legally that
> allows you to share internet connections.
>
> I disagree.  It's not illegal, it's simply not liked by the cable
companies.
> They most likely did not anticipate this.
>
> It's nothing like a cheater box.  You can't go out and buy a cheater box
at
> k-mart.  You can buy internet sharing software.
>
> This is from the @home faq, one of the, if not THE, largest cable internet
> provider.
>
> Can I hook up more than one computer to my cable modem?
> @Home offers Multiple Computer Access to each of its subscribers. You can
> hook up additional computers to @Home and have all computers online
> simultaneously. We provide up to two additional IP addresses so that you
can
> have your own home network. *
>
> * Additional fee applies
>
> It doesn't say anything about setting up your own home intranet.  They
can't
> stop you from doing that.  And if it just so happens that one of your
> computers is attached with another NIC to a cable modem, well, it's pretty
> easy to share that connection.
>
> Now, there is this also in the FAQ:
>
> Can I attach a server to your network?
> No. The @Home service is for residential, casual use only and does not
> support or allow servers of any kind from the home. At this time, @Work®
> offers products that allow the kind of connectivity a server requires.
> Please visit @Work at work.home.net.
>
> What this refers to is running an HTTP, FTP or other server using your
cable
> connection.  You can't do this, and they block specific ports so that you
> can't.  Sure, you can still run an HTTP or FTP server on a non-standard
> port, but again, this is frowned upon.  I've talked with a tech guy there
> (probably said a little more than he should) about this.  He said they
can't
> stop you, and they would rarely take action (there are TONs of warez FTP
> servers out there.. if the ports not 21, and its fast, it's most definatly
> cable modem).
>
> I'm not saying warez is legal, that's another story.  But if it can be
done,
> people will do it.
>
> Bradley V. Stone
> BVS/Tools
> http://www.bvstools.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Prowak [mailto:prowakd@emi.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 1:14 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet x-over cable
> >
> >
> > I have cable access at home, with what is probably the largest
> > of the companies offering internet access, and they
> > absolutely make it clear
> > that
> > connecting more than 1 PC is NOT allowed.
> >
> > Does that stop people from your a proxy or NAT?
> > No, but it is considered theft of services.
> >
> > Ever hear of someone getting arrested stealing cable TV
> > services with a
> > cheater box?
> > Well this is the cyber version of that.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry Bolhuis <lbolhui@ibm.net>
> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet x-over cable
> >
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