Re: Frameworks

I'll post a link to an ITJUNGLE article that triggered a couple of
substantive discussions on Linkedin:

https://www.itjungle.com/2018/05/07/keep-your-ibm-i-baby-not-the-bathwater/

It delineates one company's transition from green screens to PHP-based web
applications that interface with an RPG-back-end via some type of API that
wasn't specified in the article, but could have been REST web services APIs.

One of the owners of the company, King Harrison IV advocated for this type
of architecture on Linkedin.

I view IBM i REST web services as an alternative to ODBC/JDBC/ORM
interfaces that tend to be a cornerstone of PHP MVC frameworks. If you
decide on a REST web service API, the "model" in MVC effectively moves to
the web service, which suggests limiting PHP to the "view" in MVC.

I think this suggest that if you're considering PHP web frameworks, then
you may be thinking of doing too much in PHP.






On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As you review PHP frameworks, how would you feel about interfacing with
IBM i REST web services on the back end as an alternative to the
traditional ODBC/JDBC/ORM interfaces? And if you like the idea of
implementing IBM i REST web services, how might that influence your choice
of PHP frameworks?



On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cross posted on web400 and midrange-l

I am in the planning stage for a new project that we are using PHP on i
for. PHP will provide the user interface and will call ILERPG for
validation and database updates.

As this is a larger project we have been looking at frameworks and are
currently reviewing the following;

1) Laravel
2) CodeIgniter
3) CakePHP

From our brief review we have come up with the following;

Laravel looks like it's gained a lot of traction recently and is the
current leader in frameworks although . . It looks like has a steeper
learning curve over CodeIgniter and CakePHP and it may be most difficult
to
get running on an IBM i as it uses the command line for certain tasks

CodeIgniter looks good too as it is more simple to set up and use. It's
not
as feature rich as Laravel but it seems to have everything we require for
the project

CakePHP is one of the original PHP frameworks but I think it's loosing
traction.


Has anyone used any of these frameworks or any others that we have not
looked at ?

Any comments or suggestions about using these or other frameworks ?

Thank you for any assistance, feedback or comments.


Don Brown

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