Kevin

So imaging you are a person with a disability and you apply for a job. You
told you cannot have the job because you cannot use the DB administration
system.

True, some employers have a long way to go but just because it is an
Intranet application doesn't make it OK.

- Maurice


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kevin Turner
Sent: 29 January 2013 13:28
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] DB Maintenance Design Patterns

Ahh ok - I thought you meant that those libraries had built in progressive
features that we have not come across (rather than the ease with which you
can transform elements into widgets when it is enabled).

It is an interesting side topic - but I wonder how much effort we would put
into it given that we are not developing internet websites, but rather
intranet applications. I would have thought that our customers would have
complained long ago if we were developing things that their disabled
employees could not use.

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: 29 January 2013 13:20
To: 'Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] DB Maintenance Design Patterns

Kevin

As we use jQuery and jQueryUI extensively, I am still quite interested
in
your assertion that they are fine examples of how to develop your website.
It could be that we are not taking advantage of some compliant things we
could so it would be useful to know - but just how to you do that when
Javascript is turned off? jQuery and jQuery UI won't load and therefore
none of the features there-in work.<<

The approach is to build the site without JavaScript first then introduce it
progressively. Clearly JQuery does not load if JavaScript is turned off. So
your basic site has buttons and links to make it work as it would in the
good old days (when javaScript was the much hated language it isn't today).
Then if JavaScript is enabled (you don't even need to check) you remove
those and replace them with fancier widgets etc. by adding the new objects
to the DOM or manipulating CSS classes (piece of cake with jQuery)

Here is a perfect example on the human rights web site. With JavaScript
enabled the user can click the plus sign to expand the accordion and the
relevant content is displayed (this could even be grabbed from a page
further down using an Ajax call). If JavaScript disabled the page renders
the normal list of hyperlinks that where there in the first place (perfect).

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/advice-and-guidance/new-equality-act-guid
ance/equality-act-guidance-downloads/

I confess I am not perfect but I learn more about what the site needs to do
by trying to do it this way (rather than being left with the knowledge that
this ain't going to work for some people) and it does give a great sense of
satisfaction. In fact the site just "feels" more complete IMHO

Nice to know all visitors to your site can use it!

- Maurice O'Prey





-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: 29 January 2013 12:29
To: 'Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] DB Maintenance Design Patterns

Mike

The disability discrimination act came into force in 1995 (I believe). You
can download details from the following site (if you can but find the
relevant link?).

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/

As a note this is a perfect example of a site that functions if JavaScript
is disabled yet provides very nice "progressive" enhancements when it is
enabled (as is the case for the majority of users), a very fine example to
us all, try it with and without JS.

Maurice O'Prey

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