but how many projects starts completely from scratch (no data, no code, no
previous
versions) these days?

On IBM i, not many. In other "industries" there are a lot. I put industry
in quotes because some wouldn't consider social sites to be an industry,
but in mind they very much so are and they are where most of the new
websites are happening.


Aaron Bartell
www.MowYourLawn.com/blog
www.OpenRPGUI.com
www.SoftwareSavesLives.com



On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen <
thunderaxiom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Most likely because that is where the data is and it is
cheaper/faster/simpler/politically-determined to stay on the AS/400.

In our case we supplement our legacy core with new modules written in Java
(Mono would be nice) for the things like network communication. Makes it a
lot stronger.

For completely new development it is a different matter, but how many
projects starts completely from scratch (no data, no code, no previous
versions) these days?


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: 1. august 2012 21:14
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Getting a pulse for Ruby On Rails on i

I think what you are asking is a very important question we need to ask for
non-integrated language/framework stacks. Once you aren't using what I'd
consider the languages native to the OS (i.e. RPG, CL) then what does IBMi
gain you over Amazon EC2 for running PHP/Java/RoR?

Aaron Bartell
www.MowYourLawn.com/blog
www.OpenRPGUI.com
www.SoftwareSavesLives.com



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Richard Schoen
<richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

What do you tell them when they say: "Where's .Net ?" :-)

I still like i just like you guys, but language equality will not draw
developers to a platform.

They'll say: "I can develop on my desktop PC or Linux server. Why
should I develop on an i ?"

Just sayin.. Platform isn't enough any more.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc.
Where Information Meets Innovation
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message: 6
date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:06:49 -0600
from: Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WEB400] Getting a pulse for Ruby On Rails on i

Shoot, *I* can answer that: "Because it is there!". Well, no,
actually, it is more of the IBM i platform being a secure, high
performing server that can run all the latest languages and
frameworks. If we are going to attract the under 40 set, we need to
have a server platform that can natively run all the latest
technologies "out of the box". Of your list of languages, only PHP
and perhaps .Net would be attractive to the younger crowd. But Ruby
and other languages and Rails and other frameworks are at the edge of
forward thinking programmers. IBM i shouldn't be lagging, it should be
leading when it comes to these programming options (IMHO).

Pete Helgren
Value Added Software, Inc
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java


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