Re: The ASF Resigns From the JCP Executive Committee

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe,

You may be right about the smoke vs. fire, however, the moment Oracle 
tries to pull a Microsoft and claim sufficient ownership to demand 
license fees,  it's gonna get hot fast.  I think they have good a 
foundation for establishing ownership of Java and all things related, 
and therefore the legal ability to start charging license fees, unlike 
SCO/Microsoft without that foundation.

The real question is, does the community punt and go for technologies 
that are not going to potentially be subject to the fees, or hope that 
the fight between Oracle and IBM insulates them from a potential 
liability.    Only time will tell.  The rest of the discussion is 
academic and only worth the passing thought or two.

Back to Zend_Navigation and routing......

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC


On 12/9/2010 4:33 PM, Joe Pluta wrote:
> Oracle wants to stop embedded Java appliances, like Android phones.
>    This has zero to do with servers or desktops.  Because if Oracle
> really wants to play the "no implementation but ours" game on servers,
> they'll have a fun fight with IBM.
>
> There's a LOT more smoke here than fire.
>
> Joe
>
> > >  I didn't even think about that.  Zend probably is quite happy on a number of
> > >  fronts - not just IBMi.
> > >
> > >  The thing I really liked about Java is I could use it at three different
> > >  locations - JME, JSE, JEE - without switching languages.  Too bad PHP wasn't
> > >  at multiple levels.  Python maybe?  Where's Han's Bolt when you need him:-)
> > >
> > >  Aaron Bartell
> > >  www.MowYourLawn.com/blog
> > >  www.OpenRPGUI.com
> > >  www.SoftwareSavesLives.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> > >
> > > >>  I'm going to guess our friends at Zend are going to do the Israeli
> > > >>  version of an Irish Jig, and our other friends in Redmond are happy
> > > >>  about this eventuality........
> > > >>
> > > >>  I do wonder how IBM is going to deal with this one......I'm guessing it
> > > >>  will be some time before much changes,  but since I am finding the Zend
> > > >>  Framework to be every bit as powerful (albeit nearly as difficult to get
> > > >>  your arms around) as the Java frameworks there may be some migration
> > > >>  happening.  Particularly as the article infers that there may be some
> > > >>  licensing questions in the near future.
> > > >>
> > > >>  This will be fun....
> > > >>
> > > >>  Jim Oberholtzer
> > > >>  CEO/Chief Technical Architect
> > > >>  Agile Technology Architects, LLC
> > > >>