Yes, it is ExtJS, and all you see is comming from a little minimum sized
515.
Data is served from the same mashine - all written in RPG.
ExtJS has tree major groups that uses it - MS .NET, PHP, and Lotus Notes
people, and they write thousands of statements to achive what you see (in
fact they have to write the same, but has to do it manually for each
program), most of the code you see is written i 2 (two) RPG statements -
and the program was made in less than 5 minutes ;-)
ExtJS runs in the browser, so it can't call iSeries resources directly.
Yes, we will continue to see new technologies such a JQtouch etc. etc., I
don't se the big problem in that.
Henrik
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That's a pretty nifty use of Java script. I take it you are using the
products from this company (please correct me if I'm wrong):
http://www.extjs.com/
I have nothing against using tools like this. I'm actually curious. Is the
page you directed us to as an example showing us data from an IBM i? How
does ExtJS to access databases from a remote server? Can ExtJS access IBM
i resources other than database tables?
Sorry, but I have no idea how many lines of PHP & HTML code would be
needed to replicate the page. I noticed the source code of the page
devoted lines 4 to 1000 (out of 1006 lines total) to Java script. I would
hazard a guess that an experienced PHP developer could do it in several
hundred lines of code (comparable). I've seen some pretty compact PHP
code. Didn't understand how it worked. But I've seen it. :-)
The commercial internet is a huge space. We will continue to see all kinds
of technologies used in that space for years to come. There's no one
technology that's going make the rest of them obsolete. Pick your
poison...
Kelly Cookson
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dot Foods, Inc.
217-773-4486 x12676
www.dotfoods.com
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Here is a link to a RIA type of application, try to browse the source that
created the page .... how much PHP/HTML is needed ?
http://212.242.251.247:1550/pextcgi/pxwkpxx9.pgm
Henrik
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Facebook still uses PHP. Here's how a Facebook developer describes their
use of PHP, HipHop and C:
"HipHop for PHP isn't technically a compiler itself. Rather it is a source
code transformer. HipHop programmatically transforms your PHP source code
into highly optimized C++ and then uses g++ to compile it."
"One common way to address these inefficiencies is to rewrite the more
complex parts of your PHP application directly in C++ as PHP Extensions.
This largely transforms PHP into a glue language between your front end
HTML and application logic in C++."
So they still use PHP. They just take the complex parts of the PHP and run
it through HipHop to compile into C. The C programs are then used as PHP
extensions. Like the guy says, PHP becomes the glue between the HTML front
end and the C back end.
Now, wouldn't it be cool if Zend and IBM could partner up and get HipHop
running on IBM i? We could use an HTML front end, a C back end (which
through the magic of ILE could allow reuse of RPG and COBOL), and PHP as
the glue that ties it all together.
Here's the article if you want to read more:
http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=358
Kelly Cookson
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dot Foods, Inc.
217-773-4486 x12676
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Well, JavaScript generation is just a minor auxiliary that most people
never pay any attention to. But Dreamweaver is the best tool we've found
for "writing", "editing", and "managing" HTML, CSS, and JavaScript
projects in an integrated & consistent manner.
I don't want to get off topic, either.
It seems that one trap that PHP developers may fall into might be called
the "Facebook syndrome", where the applications become robust enough and
popular enough, that you begin looking for ways to get them to perform &
scale better, after the fact. In the case of Facebook, that led them to
transform the code to C.
-Nathan.
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Not to get off-topic, but the JavaScript code that DreamWeaver generated
the last time I used it was horrendous. It would be a huge headache to
maintain.
Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
tallen@xxxxxxxxxxxx
midrange.com
