Re: Truly later thinking...Honey, grab me another beer

[Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard,

Unless you are demonstrating a tool that generates another language, you are
not comparing apples.

The problem is that this is not a true representation of either "language".
This is simply a vehicle that pits one person's viewpoint against another.
If it were truly a language comparison, or face-off, you would have multiple
Java experts against multiple .Net experts. And, of course, you would have
added PHP and RPG and even COBOL.

It is not Java vs. .Net, no matter how you spin it. It is EGL being sold to
the masses (at their expense) on one day, and you offering ways to use .Net
with i. One is proven, one is not. Other than the fact that your 'opponent'
has already claimed that EGL is the winner all over this forum, you could
even win the "face off".


My suggestion would be to have an ACTUAL face-off. Why don't we invite you,
Mr. EGL and Mike Pavlak to be on an iSociety Fireside chat? We can invite
questions from the chat audience, and each of you can offer their 'solution'
as the answer to each question - EGL, .Net and PHP. And, I am sure we can
find a neutral moderator....


Trevor


On 8/10/08 4:34 PM, "Richard Schoen" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Actually Trevor, it's not really.
>
> As Joe pointed out EGL does generate Java and he felt we should be
> representing the latest Java technology toolsets such as RDI and EGL.
>
> We agreed that this made sense.
>
> Even though I'm not an EGL fan yet, Joe may persuade me to come over to
> the dark side. He did teach me Java a few years back so he may have the
> technology to rebuild my thought process :-)
>
> The face off part comes in Joe's and my attempts to get the attendees to
> like our respective technology toolsets.
>
> As I mentioned to Mike in my other post it would have been nice to have
> PHP and RPG in the house as well, but the lab space is limited for this
> event. 
>
> As much as Joe and I may disagree on technology toolsets, EGL does
> generate JSF code which is Java. Joe can expand on this if needed.
>
> I'm not sure which side you'll be on, but since we're both promoting "i"
> technology I'm sure you'll side with both of us.
>
> At least I'm not calling it AS/400 which should please you :-)
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schoen
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> Richard,
>
> This event is incorrectly marketed.
>
> It seems that you are offering a "showcase" - EGL one day, then .Net the
> next. Where is the "face off" where EGL and .Net are face to face? And,
> with
> Pluta doing EGL, not Java, then the title is terribly misleading.
>
> Of course, one would expect "EGL/.Net Showcase" is probably not going to
> be
> 'anticipated', let alone 'highly'...
>
> Trevor