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Re: ASP.NET and the iSeries - New Thread

Maybe you should ask yourself this question: Are you using ASP.NET in your
iSeries shop because that is what you know, or is it because it is the best
solution for your business based on thorough evaluation of other solutions?

It seems to be the best solution for my Customers and indeed for me. I moved
from RPG, through Perl to ASP.NET (bypassed Java and seemed to have survived
despite the initial hype of doubling your salary). We develop eCommerce
solutions that are hosted on Windows Servers and exchange data with the IBM
i (there I'm starting to get used to calling it that!).

None of the Customers I have been involved with (in 28 years of Midrange
product development), have any Java expertise in-house. I don't doubt there
are many that do but it seems pretty rare over here in the UK. Also our
eCommerce solutions tend to be hosted by ISP's or on an in-house Windows
Server (not many ISP's can provide you with an IBM i)

I've chosen ASP.NET because it fits my needs (and much more), I have nothing
against anything else.

Maurice O'Prey

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: 14 April 2008 22:37
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] ASP.NET and the iSeries - New Thread

I am sure that you will agree that ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> s best suited
to be run on MS platforms, interaction with other MS products, Windows
Server, IIS, SQL..

You opened the door so I will walk through it:-) I have found Microsoft
products are *OK* with small scale stuff. As soon as you get further into
the enterprise level applications with the tiers written appropriately then
all the neat things you get with Microsoft fade away quickly. Note this
isn't unique to Microsoft but is true about most application stacks out
there (i.e. RubyOnRails, JSF to some extent, etc). So if the code being
created by the drag and drop tooling is only good for proof of concepts and
not real-world apps, then why not go with something (i.e. Java/RPG) that can
run on a solid OS like "IBM i" (my first use of that on the forums, boy that
felt weird :-)

Maybe you should ask yourself this question: Are you using ASP.NET in your
iSeries shop because that is what you know, or is it because it is the best
solution for your business based on thorough evaluation of other solutions?
I find it all to enticing to move to Microsoft because it is easy in the
beginning - not many shops plan ten years out anymore which is too bad.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com





On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Maurice O'Prey <maurice.oprey@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Aaron

I am sure that you will agree that ASP.NET s best suited to be run on MS
platforms, interaction with other MS products, Windows Server, IIS, SQL
Server, Visual Studio, Expression, Blend, Ajax Toolkit etc being a key
point.

I don't see the need to migrate all of these over to the iSeries (and I
should imagine that this is not likely to ever happen) but native hosting
of
the .NET framework would be an advantage IMHO

My main reason for this post was to provide a thread for people to ask and
discuss technical questions about ASP.NET and the iSeries. I am fully
aware
that the list is comprehensive in other areas.


Maurice O'Prey







-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: 14 April 2008 21:34
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] ASP.NET and the iSeries - New Thread

A versus B is not an opinion, it is a comparison.

Why are you only interested in using ASP.NET *with* the iSeries versus
*on*
the iSeries?

Don't let past threads kill currently solid potentials.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Maurice O'Prey <maurice.oprey@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Aaron

Let me re-iterate, we are not asking for opinions of A versus B in this
thread. We are interested in using ASP.NET with the iSeries.

Regards

Maurice O'Prey


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: 14 April 2008 20:33
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] ASP.NET and the iSeries - New Thread

It would be interesting to see if ASP.NET performed better/worse/same as
JSP
on the iSeries. Richard has written some articles/sessions showing how
to
run your ASP.NET natively under a Java app server. I am not sure if it
is
an open source community effort (i.e. converter tool), but if you could
run
ASP.NET in Tomcat on the iSeries I would consider that a huge benefit
over
running it in IIS on Windows.

Just some thoughts,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Mark Allen wrote:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Maurice O'Prey <
maurice.oprey@xxxxxxxxx

wrote:


Hi Everyone

I would like to start a new thread specifically for users of
ASP.NETand
the
iSeries, System i5 and IBM i...

Are you interested? If so please reply and lets start talking, if
not
we'll
clear off somewhere else ;-)

P.S. Please note the subject of this thread, so no unnecessary
posts
please!

Kind Regards

Maurice O'Prey
XMLi5 Ltd.

And whatever you guys do, make sure you get the RJS folks involved. I
think Richard's already forgotten more about .Net/i integration than I
know.

Joe
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