Aaron,

Very good info.

As to a "nice and easy DB access"... I don't want any RPG stuff, I want
to use SQL exclusively. Does PHP do that? What is used to for the
presentation layer; HTML or what?

Since I don't want to use anything RPG, sounds like your list would
come down to PHP or Java.

I FULLY agree that I'd like to keep the web code environment on the i5;
don't want to depend on WinTel boxes unless forced. Perhaps sometime in
the future, I can afford to free up an LPAR for AIX or Linux but not
right now.

Thanks again,

Dave


"albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> 5/31/2007 10:43 >>>
PHP is a very nice language for developing applications quickly without
much
complication. I haven't written serious business apps with PHP and
instead
have used it more as a alternative to Java when not on the i5. The
biggest
bummer I see with PHP is that you don't have the nice and easy DB
access
that RPG has with CHAIN, READ, READE, etc. Some might not consider
that a
bummer at all. Some would debate PHP as an enterprise ready
infrastructure
(I believe I have in the past), but it is getting some serious
acceptance
from the world and Zend is constantly fine tuning it for the
enterprise.

My experience with PHP on the i5 is limited as the Zend install I
tried
failed miserably. I must note that it was the beta version for V5R3.
They
have since release full support for PHP on V5R3 and it would probably
work
just fine now - just my experience with PHP on the i5.

If I had to put an order of precedence for picking technologies to
build web
pages for i5 RPG shops here is the order I would go. Obviously there
are
many variables involved, so this list could be debated on many fronts
and I
would probably agree with a number of the debates. Anyways, here is
my
direction today:

RPG CGI on the i5 (eRPGSDK, Profound Logics RPGsp is also a very nice
option, CGIDEV2, etc)
PHP on the i5
Java on the i5 (Tomcat as servlet engine)
PHP on Linux in i5 partition
Java on Linux in i5 partition

And lastly, on an academic level, I would love to do Ruby On Rails on
the
i5. It can be done today on i5OS theoretically, but I haven't had time
to
prove my theory:-)

You'll notice I have them all on the i5. IMO there is a lot of benefit
to
having everything on one integrated hardware platform. The i5 is built
to
facilitate this. Many companies don't realize that allowing another
language or platform in the door can make for a mess in 10 years when
you
have 5 languages on numerous platforms to support. Just think of all
the
different conferences you would have to send your staff to for
starters!

My $.02,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com ( http://mowyourlawn.com/ )

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Craig Jacobsen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:26 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations ofwebdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
for
diverse i5 access...

Why not use PHP??

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:20 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of
webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool for
diverse i5 access...

I think recommendations have to be made based on the needs and
existing
infrastructure of a company. With that said and being this is a list
where
I am guessing everyone has an System i5 in house, Brad's recommendation
for
RPG CGI is quite valid. Going the RPG CGI route (for an RPG shop)
allows
them to cash in on existing knowledge and hardware investments (talking
many
hundreds of thousands of dollars even for a shop with only 5
developers).

What advantages does ASP.NET 2.0 have over RPG CGI for a shop with a
wealth
of RPG knowledge? I think when people make recommendations of ASP.NET
they
don't realize how much change needs to take place to facilitate
enterprise
level computing (read solid business apps).

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com ( http://mowyourlawn.com/ )

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 AM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of web
developmentarchitecture/tool
for diverse i5 access...

Brad

Glad to know you are still alive, enjoyed your first book!

Don't necessarily agree with the RPG bit though? Would recommend
ASP.NET 2.0

Regards

Maurice O'Prey


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