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I agree, Mike. PHP is a great tool for certain jobs. I think what I'm most worried about is that we're getting TOO MANY choices now. I just got done doing a mentoring session on JSP Model II, and because I have a very focused syllabus, my clients came up to speed in a just a couple of days. They're already pushing the envelope of my architecture and figuring out how to extend it for their specific needs. Had I instead tried to address all of the possible approaches, they'd still be in the theory stage rather than designing working applications. I *think* what I'd like to see is a set of guidelines as to when to use each approach. If we could as a community come up with three or four (or even half a dozen) basic scenarios and have a skeleton approach to each, then I think we'd see a lot more movement forward. The problem is not the programming; we're business application developers, which means we're for the most part pretty darned good programmers. The problem is getting started, and the more choices people have, the more chance they have to fall into "analysis paralysis" and then nothing gets done. And this is where the Midrange Alliance folks wander in with their technically inferior but oh so pretty out-of-the-box "solutions". Joe > From: Mike Wills > > Now, I am not saying that you should replace all of your Java programs. I > am > like you Joe, use the right language for the job. If you are writing an > enterprise application, PHP may not be the best language. If you are > writing > a simple corporate web site, Java may be too complex. > > What I meant by my email was that if you needed, you could integrate this > with RPG for simple sites.
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