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BTW, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind; you can do whatever you want. (you certainly don't need permission from me :) ) I'm trying to see if my values/beliefs continue to have validity. In the end, I think your case is stronger in the Intranet world, where the PC is not yours, it is the organization's PC. So the organization (or the organization's applications) can do what it likes. It still makes me uneasy but it's a stronger argument. It weakens at the extranet level. I may be your customer but I did not implicitly or otherwise give you permission to mess with my stuff. A browser is a browser, regardless of what the content is. You own the content, I own the machine and window. When you take control of the window, you break that agreement. Change my home page or stuff like that, and we're not going to use your site. You lose because either 1) I don't use the site, increasing your transactional costs or 2) I find another vendor that I will give me what I want. As a supplier, I'm not pleased you hijack my browser but I either deal (because I need the business) or I quietly look for ways to make you pay for my pain. Not sure how it plays out if you gave me the machine, then set up an extranet for me to use. I think it's still wrong to change the browser settings but I don't know why. At the Internet level, you toucha my browser, I breaka yo face (virtually speaking, of course). SSL or otherwise, I consider it disrespectful when you "adjust" my machine (notice I include browser in that definition). Unless you have something I really, really want, I'm going to a better behaved web site. the point about pop ups is a good one... (from a different post). I don't like popups but the point is well taken. In the case of pop ups, the browser is the medium for the ad, it is usually stripped of the "chrome." It does help me to understand why folks do what they do... At the end of the day, there better be a darn good reason to take my "chrome" away. And even then, I won't be happy you did it. thanks dan
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