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Re: Multiple versions

I don't think this is a trivial change (not that it's not a good idea).
It's not the code that will be the problem, it's how to coordinate things
when working offline, or with projects. Anything that slows opening a
member is unlikely to be popular.

One problem I have noticed, but can't remember dealing with it since
upgrading to 9.6.0.9, was opening a member, making a change, saving it back
to the source file, compiling successfully, closing the member, exiting
RDi, and then finding the member was still locked by QRWTSRVR when I tried
to access the member with SEU (don't hate me).

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:31 AM Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Outstanding, Steve - I'll have to find it and vote for it - and the OP,
as well!

Vern

On 2/8/2021 11:48 AM, Steve Ferrell via WDSCI-L wrote:
Hi Vern,

There is an RFE for Lock Source on Startup.

We've added the scenario to our internal Jira to be sure that this
behavior is addressed.

It seems like a pretty standard scenario.

Steve Ferrell
w. www.helpsystems.com



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Hi Mike

I guess things are working "as coded". I just wonder if there is a
reason the check could not be done when opening RDi if there is an editor
with the source in it and set to edit, not browse. Or when one chooses to
go from browser to edit.

I just might throw in an RFE!

Thanks again for all your help here!


Vern

On 2/8/2021 10:59 AM, Mike Hockings wrote:
Hey Vern,
The check will not even be done until there is an attempt to save. On
save RDI will try and lock the source and either do the save or tell
you it has been changed since it was last seen.

The scenario for closing and opening RDI and doing a save is
considerably different than the unexpected loss of a current
connection prior to a save attempt.
All the best, Mike


Mike Hockings, M.Eng., P.Eng.
DevOps for Enterprise
IBM Developer for z Systems and Power Systems Software Technical
Support IBM Canada Ltd. Laboratory hockings@xxxxxxxxxx voice
1-905-413-3199 T/L 313-3199 ITN 23133199




From: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 2021/02/08 11:39 AM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WDSCI-L] Multiple versions
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



Hi Mike

Is it a feasible idea to have an option to check last changed dates
before when we try to save? Or just do it?

If the source has been saved in SEU, for example, RDI can get the lock.
I assume it could check that date when it goes after the lock. RFE time?
is there one already for this?

I have had something else - connection drops and I try to save, then I
get the message the source is locked, and if i say to end the job, i
still get a couple popups that i think are extra. Like saying again
the source can't be saved. I've not reported this, and now that I
basically don't lose any connections - 25 for the keepalive has worked
great! - I don't get the message about locking now.


Regards

Vern

On 2/7/2021 9:49 PM, Mike Hockings wrote:
If you close RDI with an open source it will release the locks on
shutdown.
At startup the member will be loaded from the local cached version
and
try
to lock the source and check last changed dates if you try to save.

Unless your primary source is in an i Project I would recommend
closing remote source edit sessions before closing RDI.

Mike

Mike Hockings, M.Eng., P.Eng.
DevOps for Enterprise
IBM Developer for z Systems and Power Systems Software Technical
Support IBM Canada Ltd. Laboratory hockings@xxxxxxxxxx voice
1-905-413-3199 T/L 313-3199 ITN 23133199




From: smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx
To: "'Rational Developer for IBM i'" <
wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2021/02/06 07:26 PM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [WDSCI-L] Multiple versions
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



I edited a source member earlier in the week. When I got done, I
saved
my
source and exited RDI. I did not close my source member before
closing RDI.



Thursday and Friday I was on a different machine without RDI so I
used
SEU
to make a bunch of additional changes.



Today, I opened RDI. My source was open on the screen so I started
making
changes. After about 30 minutes or so, I attempted to save. It told
me there was a more recent version and asked me what I wanted to do.
I
saved
my source to a different name and then did a source compare. None of
the Thursday or Friday changes were in the source I worked on today.
I just spent an hour trying to merge the two source files together
and I'm still not confident that I got everything.



When I start RDI, shouldn't it check any already open members to see
if they have been changed by something else and warn me that I am not
viewing the most recent version? Do I have something configured
wrong somewhere?



I am using RDI version 9.5.

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