Re: Officially the weirdest thing I've seen in RDi -- WDSCI-L

I thought we were paying him?

When I first joined up he sent me a PM saying we all needed to chip in $10
per month for his voice of reason.

Don't tell me I'm the only one doing this?

On 17 August 2018 at 18:04, Edmund Reinhardt <edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Excellent explanation Buck, we should be paying you :-)

----- Original message -----
From: Paul Therrien <paultherrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Officially the weirdest thing I've seen in RDi
Date: Fri, Aug 17, 2018 9:19 AM

+1 ... for your patient tutoring.

(although, I still have not tried to implement iProjects)

Paul

On 2018-08-17 08:51, Buck Calabro wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 07:49, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>> Sadly, I have used iProjects. And it has burned me....
>
> Ken, your note is like a time machine of my life. I can very much
> imagine myself writing this exact thing 20 years ago - I might even
> have done, for all I know. My current self is different to that
> earlier self, and I'd like to take the opportunity to write a note,
> put it in the TARDIS, and deliver it to my past self so I could...
get
> past this block. Here is my message in a Klein Bottle:
>
> Younger Buck,
> It happened again. You've use iProjects to group all the source
> members for a particular mod in one place, pushed it to production,
> and the debugger insists on referring to the old source in the
> iProject. That frustrates the heck out of you and you've sworn off
> iProjects as the crappiest crap ever put into IBM software.
>
> Don't be so hasty. There's nothing wrong with iProjects - the
problem
> is you. Wait, don't stop reading yet. This is your older, wiser
self
> here - you best take my advice. I'm going to need you to be smarter
> Real Soon Now. But I can't talk about that - spoilers! Yes, I
still
> ramble. I'm working on it. It turns out that you're going to need
> iProjects for... argh. Yes, spoilers.
>
> The problem with iProjects isn't the tool - it's how you're using
it.
> You are right-handed. You can cut with left-handed scissors, but it
> won't turn out well. You'll have deja vu when you learn that lesson
> yourself. iProjects is designed to be a semi-permanent container
for
> your source. It was a good idea to use iProjects to keep track of
all
> the things for the ZIP code expansion project! It was a bad idea to
> assume that the iProject disappeared when you uploaded the source
back
> to production. Let me say that again, with different words, because
> we're still stubborn 20 years later - You can't have the iProject
AND
> the production code in the IDE at the same time. Once more, with
> feeling: If the iProject is done, the source uploaded, iProject not
> needed any more, DELETE THE iPROJECT.
>
> Rule Zero: As long as the iProject is in the IDE, the iProject IS
THE
> CANONICAL, OFFICIAL SOURCE OF RECORD. Edit iProjects, or edit
> production. NEVER, EVER, CROSS THE STREAMS!
> Yes, I'm yelling. We haven't got over that either. Working on
that,
too.
>
> If there's some reason you need to keep the iProject around (like
> having to deploy it on multiple LPARs / customer machines) then
under
> no circumstances should you ever change the code on the IBM side -
> change it in iProjects and push it again. Yes, that seems like a
> pain, but it's up to you to honour Rule Zero at all times - RDi
won't
> magically know that you've done a push and it can now safely ignore
> the iProject forever more.
>
> Well Younger Buck, the TARDIS will only allow a finite number of
> electrons to go back into our past timeline, but I hope you get the
> idea.
>
> Never violate Rule Zero. The space-time continuum depends on that.
> --Older Buck
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