Re: SVN Synchronize action does not work from i Projects perspective

We use the Multiple-Check outs/Concurrent with the Turnover package. We
had to write some user exits to handle it for our scenario.

Basically, the developer has to acknowledge that another developer is
working on the same source, and they need to manually synchronize the
source.

As a Turnover Administrator, I *ALWAYS* advise to *AVOID* concurrent
development if at all possible, but sometimes it is unavoidable.

At least we have decent compare source options with RDI 9.5.1.2 such as
the LPEX compare and the eclipse compare. Sometimes I use third-party tools
to compare source.

The Microsoft developers brag that their TFS has a 3-way merge. TFS=Team
Foundation Services, their CMS.

-Ken Killian-

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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon
Hamberg
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] SVN Synchronize action does not work from i
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BTW, as to multi-checkout in Turnover - it is not the default but it can
be set up to do it. There are probably implications, and at least one must
pay close attention to messages about changes made by other developers.

On 9/29/2017 6:44 AM, Scott Johnson wrote:

This is one page (one of many) that came up in my research:
https://svnvsgit.com/ Subversion already has a foothold in our
company. My research into the whole Subversion vs Git was to see if
there was a reason to upset the apple cart. Git did not present
anything that was an OMG we have to switch. :)

Also, my history is in using a CMS like TurnOver where multi check-out

was not allowed. So, I align more with having the central location and you
grab only what you need to do what you need.

Regardless. No matter how many toys there are, you will always have a
favorite. :)

Thanks
Scott Johnson

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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] SVN Synchronize action does not work from i
Projects perspective

-- Just because Git is new kid on the block and in the news does not

mean you should jump that way.

Git came out in 2005, which subsequently is the same year that Windows

XP 64-Bit Edition was released (Wikipedia) and a year *before* V5R4 came
out (wiki.midrange).

The only newness is that it was just offered on the iSeries with

5733-OPS / SI61060 (2016?).

-- I read someplace most enterprises will go Subversion because they

need that centralized repository.

Yes, Git is distributed.
That does not mean you don't have a Git "centralized repository".

It just means that everyone who connects to the Git repository gets a

local copy of all the info needed to see history and version information.

Before reading this article comparing Git and SVN I couldn't think of

any advantages of using SVN.

https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnComparison

And even after reading it I still don't see how it could be a better

overall choice over Git.

Would you care to share the considerations that make SVN a better choice

for your company?

Chris Hiebert
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Disclaimer: Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the

author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.

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Projects perspective

I did the research of Subversive vs Subclipse about a week ago.
Subclipse is supported / developed by a group of people closely tied to

Subversion. Development continues with it.

Subverse is supported / developed by a group of people related to

Eclipse. Development stalled and/or in 'incubation'.

Good back and forth here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61320/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-o
f-the-svn-plugins-for-eclipse-subclipse-and-subvers

I decided to go with Subclipse.


As for Subversion vs Git. Researched this a couple of days ago.

There are pluses and minus to both. Also they are architected entirely
different. Git is distributed, Subversion is centralized. We are currently
using Subversion, but the software we use recommends Git. After this
research, I think I will recommend staying with Subversion for now.

Thanks
Scott Johnson

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Edmund Reinhardt
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Hi Thomas,
Just curious why you would choose SVN over Git nowadays? Of course if

that is what the organization has standardized and it is too much inertia
to move, then I understand. EGit will work with RDi as well.

Edmund



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