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Re: RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Hi Ken,

To confirm what you said about indenting and not changing dates, RPG Toolbox allows you to select code to indent, indent it, but the source dates do not update?

If that's true, I'll update my RFE.

Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst - Application Development, Service Delivery Platform

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:01 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Another thing I like about RDi 9.5, is that is using the much more current eclipse 4.4.2, the "Luna" version....

Now, finally, I can change the color on my active window. Something I use to be able to do on the WDSC/RDP. <smirk>

I had to play around with it a little bit, but here is what I did to change my Active Window Color:
1.) >Windows>Preferences>General>Appearance --> theme: Classic
2.) >Windows>Preferences>General>Appearance>Colors and Fonts
Expand Folder "View and Editor Folders"
Change "Active part background" begin/end
I picked Light Blue & Dark Blue. Like my daughter's eyes, and Big Blue (a.k.a. IBM) :D
Then I change the active text font to silver that shows up nicely against the blue.

Just a small "dumb/insignificant" feature that I am glad to FINALLY have back. Just a "cosmetic color thing" that I happen to like.

It would be nice to have theme control for LPEX coloring. Oh well, not a biggie. Just a low priority thing that would be "nice". But, definitely NOT a top priority.

I still like my third party package, RPG Toolbox, that allows me indent, without change the source date lines! And modernize code.
:D <Joy Joy>

I have several friends, whom do not have a 3rd party tool, like the RPG toolbox, so sort of happy to see on built into RDi 9.5. Hopefully, it will encourage more to use Free format RPGLE!

PS. I meekly waved a snickers bar at Edmund, before I asked a question. I don't think he saw it. <LOL>

Sidebar: Maybe have your Non-RDI co-workers watch a presentation by Charles Guarino. Like most speakers, much better in PERSON! Very enthusiastic and dynamic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-RW9VafQNM

Welcome to the 21st Century! Use RDI 9.5! :D


-Ken Killian-

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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:08 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Oh no, Ken is in Snickers overload. :)

I was going to wait a bit to update (we use TurnOver and there was mention that their plugin needs to be updated), but now with all of Ken's kudos, I might do it sooner than later.


Thanks,
Scott Johnson

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:56 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Wow! Ran into Edmund, and he knew about my formatting problem...

On RDi 9.5

I change the indent from 1 -100, instead of *MAX. And then the indenter works fine, no issues! Cool! I thought I had to be missing something.

I will notify IBM support on my PMR, later that I guess this can be closed.

Thanks!

PS. So many great features update in RDi 9.5, now I am drooling for the next update. Love this RDI IDE! It makes programming fun, fast, efficient, and more important, enjoyable!



-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:51 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Hi,

I wanted to mention that the "FORMATTER" Ctrl+Shift+F did NOT actually get RDi 9.5 to blow up...

But, AFTER running the "Formatter", which includes tons of Right-hand comment past column 80. It blew up AFTER I did the Ctrl+Shift+V, "VERIFY". That is when RDI 9.5 crashed/blew-up.

I sent screen prints to IBM support for the PMR 35067,442 Formatter cause RDI to crash. It was AFTER I did the Verify, after the formatter. Just to clarify.

-Ken Killian-

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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

I followed procedure, and open a PMR#35067,442 for the formatter crashing RDI on one my huge programs with right hand comments, that extend past column 80. Which I assume is the cause of the blow up.

I will work with IBM support, and send them code, that I was able to crash RDI.

Thanks for reminding me to report, so it can be resolved!

-Ken Killian-


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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Sure, I will do that later privately...

Just don't critic the code... <LOL>

-Ken Killian-

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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Ken,
On a separate note I was not able to reproduce the crash when doing the verify. Could you send me the offending source member?
Thanks




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/18/2015 07:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but
pretty good!
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I decide to test the new built in RPGLE "formatter", a.k.a. Ctrl+Shift+F, and it failed BIG time on one my biggest programs with over 6,400 lines.

It does not like right-hand comments, which I happen to use a ton of those!
It gave my program approximately 1,000 plus errors...

Let me elaborate in simple terms....

Starting in column-8, I put "//" followed by all "*" through the end of punch card to column 100.

When using the formatter, it Shift that code LEFT to approximately column-6. <LOL>

Then I tried to do verify, just to see how many errors it found. Then surprise! RDI 9.5 BARFED! <LOL> Java was started but returned exit code=8096.

I guess the Formatter was only designed to handle the old fashion punch-card with 80-columns, not to 100 columns, like most of us have for our QRPGLESRC. Defined as 112, 6-seq, 6-date, 100-source.
<Maniacal Laughter> :)

No worries for me, I will continue to use the Linoma RPG Tool Box plug-in, which works... <grin>

So, for those coders, who do NOT go past the 80-columns, maybe the formatter will work find for you... <snicker snicker>

Oh well, over all, I am pleasantly please with this release.

PS. I am eating a snickers bar right now, no worries! <Big Smile>

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:12 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Cool, I found the formatting options...
Window>Preference>Remote Systems>Remote Systems LPEX>IBM I Parsers>ILE
RPG>Formatter....

You can change the number of spaces to indent. I knew it was thee some where. I have Developer friends who do not have a 3rd party inventor like Linoma. So, this will be good to share!


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

RDi 9.5 built in indenter, Ctrl+Shift+F, is not too bad. It is not perfect, and pretty good for the first pass...

It gets just a smidge confused when trying to indent code with right hand comments. No biggie, but different.

Sadly, because it updates the indent, it also updates all the source dates too...

I like the Linoma RPG Tool box/plug in, it has the option *NOT* to update the source dates, when just updating the code indentation. And since it has been doing code indentation a lot longer, it is more refined.

But, my test run of the built indenter is a lot better than no indenter!
This will be an excellent start for those without a 3rd party plug-in.

Thanks IBM!

-Ken Killian-
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