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Re: RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Thanks for your patience with me. I appreciate all you and your team's work on RDi 9.5. I am so glad is now using Luna, eclipse 4.4.2. I can customize my colors again! :)

I forgot about the Eclipse trick to duplicate window, which also work on the embedded emulator:
Window>Editor>Clone. I love that trick. I forgot about it! <Big Smile>

I always enjoy working with the IBM support for RDI. My only issue is on those rare issues that I cannot duplicate. I run into the same problem, I cannot fix a program bug, until I duplicate it. I sent them my source to hopefully duplicate the error.

Sometimes as developer, running around putting out fires, it is a nice to hear a nice friendly reminder to please report it through proper channels to get resolve. Believe it or, I appreciate that! Thanks Edmund. RDi 9.5 helps our developers and our little "Fire-Fights". A.k.a. the latest "Top Priority" to Fix Yesterday.
<big grin> Every developer runs into that... :)


PS. I will be sure to ALWAYS have spare snickers bar, and calm down. <LOL>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:08 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Ken,
It was nice meeting you. I appreciate your passion for the product.
Don't close that PMR, we still need to fix it so that it never shifts comments that far left in column-limited free form. I am glad that work around solved things for you.

Edmund




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/23/2015 07:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but
pretty good!
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Wow! Ran into Edmund, and he knew about my formatting problem...

On RDi 9.5

I change the indent from 1 -100, instead of *MAX. And then the indenter works fine, no issues! Cool! I thought I had to be missing something.

I will notify IBM support on my PMR, later that I guess this can be closed.

Thanks!

PS. So many great features update in RDi 9.5, now I am drooling for the next update. Love this RDI IDE! It makes programming fun, fast, efficient, and more important, enjoyable!



-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:51 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Hi,

I wanted to mention that the "FORMATTER" Ctrl+Shift+F did NOT actually get RDi 9.5 to blow up...

But, AFTER running the "Formatter", which includes tons of Right-hand comment past column 80. It blew up AFTER I did the Ctrl+Shift+V, "VERIFY".
That is when RDI 9.5 crashed/blew-up.

I sent screen prints to IBM support for the PMR 35067,442 Formatter cause RDI to crash. It was AFTER I did the Verify, after the formatter. Just to clarify.

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:22 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

I followed procedure, and open a PMR#35067,442 for the formatter crashing RDI on one my huge programs with right hand comments, that extend past column 80. Which I assume is the cause of the blow up.

I will work with IBM support, and send them code, that I was able to crash RDI.

Thanks for reminding me to report, so it can be resolved!

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:45 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Sure, I will do that later privately...

Just don't critic the code... <LOL>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:13 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Ken,
On a separate note I was not able to reproduce the crash when doing the verify. Could you send me the offending source member?
Thanks




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/18/2015 07:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect,
but
pretty good!
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I decide to test the new built in RPGLE "formatter", a.k.a. Ctrl+Shift+F, and it failed BIG time on one my biggest programs with over 6,400 lines.

It does not like right-hand comments, which I happen to use a ton of those!
It gave my program approximately 1,000 plus errors...

Let me elaborate in simple terms....

Starting in column-8, I put "//" followed by all "*" through the end of punch card to column 100.

When using the formatter, it Shift that code LEFT to approximately column-6. <LOL>

Then I tried to do verify, just to see how many errors it found. Then surprise! RDI 9.5 BARFED! <LOL> Java was started but returned exit code=8096.

I guess the Formatter was only designed to handle the old fashion punch-card with 80-columns, not to 100 columns, like most of us have for our QRPGLESRC. Defined as 112, 6-seq, 6-date, 100-source.
<Maniacal Laughter> :)

No worries for me, I will continue to use the Linoma RPG Tool Box plug-in, which works... <grin>

So, for those coders, who do NOT go past the 80-columns, maybe the formatter will work find for you... <snicker snicker>

Oh well, over all, I am pleasantly please with this release.

PS. I am eating a snickers bar right now, no worries! <Big Smile>

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:12 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Cool, I found the formatting options...
Window>Preference>Remote Systems>Remote Systems LPEX>IBM I Parsers>ILE
RPG>Formatter....

You can change the number of spaces to indent. I knew it was thee some where. I have Developer friends who do not have a 3rd party inventor like Linoma. So, this will be good to share!


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

RDi 9.5 built in indenter, Ctrl+Shift+F, is not too bad. It is not perfect, and pretty good for the first pass...

It gets just a smidge confused when trying to indent code with right hand comments. No biggie, but different.

Sadly, because it updates the indent, it also updates all the source dates too...

I like the Linoma RPG Tool box/plug in, it has the option *NOT* to update the source dates, when just updating the code indentation. And since it has been doing code indentation a lot longer, it is more refined.

But, my test run of the built indenter is a lot better than no indenter!
This will be an excellent start for those without a 3rd party plug-in.

Thanks IBM!

-Ken Killian-
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