Re: <No Subject>

Hi Vern
The Hover/Hyperlink support only works with the live outline. So reverting
to the static outline will give you back all of the definition info, but
you will lose other functionality.
I was wondering why I hadn't heard anything about LIKE DEFINE, which is why
I didn't prioritize it.




From: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 09/18/2015 12:06 PM
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Yeah, but I'm not sure I'd have leave to change the whole thing like
that - this is a bit of a monster and it's been around a long time!

I think I'll just turn off live outline for a bit and see if I get the
hover I want, as to showing attributes in tool tips.

I do really like Craig's tools - he has a couple that would handle this,
as I recall - he did say he hasn't updated for full free-form yet,
unless he got a 7.1 box now.

Would his tools be a candidate for a refresher article on free dev tools?

Cheers
Vern

On 9/18/2015 9:53 AM, Jon Paris wrote:

Time you got a copy of the Linoma Toolbox Vern and just converted the

dang things to D specs/DCLs.

Also I think Craig Rutledge may have an updated version of his free

conversions tools now.

On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:41 AM, vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Eric

I just ran into a published limitation - *LIKE DEFINE - and there are a

lot in some older code.

Has the fix for that in live outline been included in 9.5? There was a

thread here about this around November 2013.

I see I can get around it by turning off live outline update. Will try

that.

Vern

On 9/18/2015 8:51 AM, Eric Simpson wrote:

I'll post details shortly.

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Simpson

Rational Developer for i - Rational Developer for
AIX and Linux - Rational Developer for Power
IBM Software Group - Canada Lab
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From: Karl <k.mainville@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development

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Client for System i & iSeries"

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Date: 09/18/2015 09:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
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Hi,

Did someone have the repository address so I can add it to the

installation

manager ?

I would like to have the version 9.5. Can I install it via IM 1.8.3 ?

Thank you

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Doug Davie <dougdavie@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

<TURNOVER vendor response>

Some small changes were required to accommodate the new RDi 9.5.
These were verified against an early release copy, but I still need to
verify against the GA version.
I'm doing that as we speak.
So the version you're running will not work with 9.5, and you'll need

to

install the new TURNOVER version when it's ready.
When you're ready, contact our technical support line for an update.

</TURNOVER vendor response>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Concur!!!! Which is why I am drooling over this Latest Greatest RDI

9.5!!

Just hope our CMS (Change Management System) will work effortless

with

that new update, when the TR is released in the 4th quarter! We use
Softlanding/Turnover for our CMS.

When creating longer SQL Statements, I hit the Limits of the 8 - 80
Punch-Card Goal post limitations... <Big Frown> I have to split the

line,

and then space over to column 8, for the old punch-card lovers...

Yes!

Sadly, they exist! Some twist happy memories of their youth, I

guess...

I am SO HAPPY to use an I.D.E. with color syntax, Code-Assist, a

single

double-click to fix errors, TODO: Task tags, outline view, etc... I

say

GOOD-BYE to C.L.I.!!! <Joy Joy>

This from a 25-year veteran on the IBM i!
And legacy, such as the discontinue OS/400. <smirk>
Steve Perry has taught me well! <Big Geek Grin>

PS. I will bug my system administrator, to see if it is possible to
somehow download the RDI 9.5!!!
<Big Grin>

-Ken Killian-




-----Original Message-----
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Anderson
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Hi Ken,

" PS. Be sure to start in column 8, because of Punch Card legacy for
sequence numbers. For when the Developers dropped their punch cards

on

the

floor."

Ken, no longer a restriction when you use **FREE in RDi 9.5. Will
probably require a PTF to accompany it so the compiler can handle it

as

well.

Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst - Application Development, Service Delivery

Platform

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken
Killian
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement

If you are using free-format control Statement, which replaces the

old

punch card spec, that use to be called the H-Spec.

ctl-opt Option( *SrcStmt : *NoDebugIO );

And of course, RDI will provide you with Code-Assist for Free-format

and

also on-line help on this! <Joy Joy>

PS. Be sure to start in column 8, because of Punch Card legacy for
sequence numbers. For when the Developers dropped their punch cards

on

the

floor.

This is not needed in Modern/post-punch card languages like Java, C,

C+

+,

C#, Python, Objective-C, PHP, VB, JavaScript, Perl, etc... <ROLMAO>

Because they evolved past Punch cards LAST Century! <shock!>

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
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Roche,

Bob
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H option(*SRCSTMT)

Now the compiler uses your line numbers. I also add *NODEBUGIO.

-----Original Message-----
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Roche, Bob <broche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Why do you not like sequence numbers? When there is a problem in the

code, isn't it nice to have the system tell you where it is? It's not

like

RDI make syou look at them.

I think folks that don't like sequence numbers are specifically

against

*stored* sequence numbers. Personally, I consider them to be mostly
harmless, but completely useless. I have auto-renumbering on, and

compiler

listings have their own sequence number anyway.

When I say "mostly harmless", the very small harm I see is threefold:
(1) costs a small amount of storage, (2) costs a minuscule amount of

CPU

to do recalculation, (3) creates a slight amount of confusion (does a

line

number refer to the stored sequence number or the compiler-assigned
sequence number?). I cannot stress enough that these are very, very

small

costs. But for me, there is zero benefit. Display of sequence numbers
should be handled dynamically by the editor, and error messages

should

report the ordinal line number accordingly. You can see in RPG IV

compiler

listings and dumps that IBM had precisely this in mind. And folks
programming in other languages on other platforms had been doing

without

stored line numbers (happily!) for decades prior to RPG IV.

John Y.
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