Yeah!!!!!
Death to all punch-cards legacy!
<Big Smile>
-Ken Killian-
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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:32 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
This is an example of the IDE being a step ahead of the compiler. So RDi supports the new fully free format, but you need to look for an announcement from the compiler in the next month or so indicating which PTF to install. This will be supported for 7.x
Yes, this is a good day to leave the punch card legacy behind :-)
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/18/2015 08:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
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Concur!!!! Which is why I am drooling over this Latest Greatest RDI 9.5!!
Just hope our CMS (Change Management System) will work effortless with that new update, when the TR is released in the 4th quarter! We use Softlanding/Turnover for our CMS.
When creating longer SQL Statements, I hit the Limits of the 8 - 80 Punch-Card Goal post limitations... <Big Frown> I have to split the line, and then space over to column 8, for the old punch-card lovers... Yes!
Sadly, they exist! Some twist happy memories of their youth, I guess...
I am SO HAPPY to use an I.D.E. with color syntax, Code-Assist, a single double-click to fix errors, TODO: Task tags, outline view, etc... I say GOOD-BYE to C.L.I.!!! <Joy Joy>
This from a 25-year veteran on the IBM i!
And legacy, such as the discontinue OS/400. <smirk> Steve Perry has taught me well! <Big Geek Grin>
PS. I will bug my system administrator, to see if it is possible to somehow download the RDI 9.5!!!
<Big Grin>
-Ken Killian-
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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kurt Anderson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:39 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
Hi Ken,
" PS. Be sure to start in column 8, because of Punch Card legacy for sequence numbers. For when the Developers dropped their punch cards on the floor."
Ken, no longer a restriction when you use **FREE in RDi 9.5. Will probably require a PTF to accompany it so the compiler can handle it as well.
Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst - Application Development, Service Delivery Platform
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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
If you are using free-format control Statement, which replaces the old punch card spec, that use to be called the H-Spec.
ctl-opt Option( *SrcStmt : *NoDebugIO );
And of course, RDI will provide you with Code-Assist for Free-format and also on-line help on this! <Joy Joy>
PS. Be sure to start in column 8, because of Punch Card legacy for sequence numbers. For when the Developers dropped their punch cards on the floor.
This is not needed in Modern/post-punch card languages like Java, C, C++, C#, Python, Objective-C, PHP, VB, JavaScript, Perl, etc... <ROLMAO>
Because they evolved past Punch cards LAST Century! <shock!>
-Ken Killian-
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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roche, Bob
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:06 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
H option(*SRCSTMT)
Now the compiler uses your line numbers. I also add *NODEBUGIO.
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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Yeung
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:48 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 announcement
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Roche, Bob <broche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Why do you not like sequence numbers? When there is a problem in the
code, isn't it nice to have the system tell you where it is? It's not like RDI make syou look at them.
I think folks that don't like sequence numbers are specifically against
*stored* sequence numbers. Personally, I consider them to be mostly harmless, but completely useless. I have auto-renumbering on, and compiler listings have their own sequence number anyway.
When I say "mostly harmless", the very small harm I see is threefold:
(1) costs a small amount of storage, (2) costs a minuscule amount of CPU to do recalculation, (3) creates a slight amount of confusion (does a line number refer to the stored sequence number or the compiler-assigned sequence number?). I cannot stress enough that these are very, very small costs. But for me, there is zero benefit. Display of sequence numbers should be handled dynamically by the editor, and error messages should report the ordinal line number accordingly. You can see in RPG IV compiler listings and dumps that IBM had precisely this in mind. And folks programming in other languages on other platforms had been doing without stored line numbers (happily!) for decades prior to RPG IV.
John Y.
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