Re: DDS Designer Window subfile

Yes, it works fine okay in RDP 8.0.3, but I happen to be using the doom/faulty release RDP 8.5, which happens to handle NON-HARDCODE program names in the Procedure Interface...

So, I had jumped back to RDP 8.5. I am definitely recommending to my co-workers NOT to download that Release! Sadly, when I tell them download Rational Developer from the IBM web site, that is release is the one that pops up! <Big Frown>

It is beyond me, why functions that worked in a previous release, do not work in a new release. Quality Assurance dropped the ball on this Faulty Release RDP 8.5. Still scraping my tongue from the bitter after taste of that release! <Yuck!>


-Ken Killian-

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Ken, (Killian, that is)
It works fine for me. I get subfile records with control records, etc.
all in a window--if so designed. Make sure you've got both the following:
"Design Screens" radio button selected and the "Draw records transparent"
button pushed.

I use a lot of subfile message queues within the windows, so my windows are often defined separately from the subfile control records. I'll see if I can find an example that defines the window in the subfile control record. I'll let you know if it works for me. I've never seen the behavior you're experiencing. The screen designer is one of the biggest selling points to the other developers in my shop.

Kenneth (Tarr, that is)
Do you have "Draw records transparent" selected? I never go through what you do to see it. I always have all the records needed defined in a "Screen". . . .

Hey, maybe that's the problem for Ken Killian also. Do you define a screen and add the subfile, subfile control record, etc.?


wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 10/10/2013 10:33:42 AM:

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Oct 2013 13:42:28 +0000 -----

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Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Even when I pick "Design Screens" and add the Subfile/Control
formats. The subfile is NOT shown inside the Window! WTF?!?!? I will
have to be careful NOT to show this in my presentation! <LOL>

Back to Stable SDA, for designing this window subfile. At least it
works there!

I wish there was a simple way to toggle between opening in DDS
Designer & LPEX. Yes, I know about the File association to say open
up with the DDS Designer. But, that is global.

Window>Preferences>General>Editors>File Associations> I have DSPF

to default to open with Screen Designer (DEFAULT).

Yeah, I click on the source table often for quick edits. But
sometimes, it is nice to edit with good old LPEX.


-Ken Killian-

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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

I have also experienced this behavior...

There are three tabs at the bottom of the design window, "Design",
"Source" and "Preview". Design is the area you actually work on.
As noted below, you can only see one item at a time, so you can only
look at the Subfile Control or the Subfile record. Source allows
you to look at the source. You can work on edit changes here as
well. Preview is where you can view the screens together, so here
you should be able to view both the Subfile Control and Subfile
records together. Only difference is that you can't make any edit
changes. You would have to go back to the Design tab to do that.

For me the problem is that you have to go back and forth between the
two to make sure you're not overlapping any fields. If I remember,
CODE Designer was much more flexible on this. So in my view, I
believe there still is some desired functionality that was in CODE
Designer that's not in DDS Designer. And if I recall right, CODE
Designer was intuitive enough to know when you placed something on
the screen as to which one it belonged to. It also did a better job
of edit checking on the fly; that is, knowing if a name was already in

use.

I'm not totally knocking DDS Designer; it does have some features
unique to itself that makes it easier to work on some scenarios.
But I believe it sets back development a bit when some of the nice
features of CODE Designer didn't make their way to this one.

...and unfortunately, no one here has a copy of CODE anymore...yet
it's funny to note RDi still shows it in the "Open with" list...