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Re: Debugging program with multiple users

Jon,

I think IBM did fix the DEBUG Issue, with a service pack update, or whatever they call it....

The problem was that I told all my co-workers how great RDP is, and push at the time the new RDP 8.5 release. I have been working on WDSC 5.0/6.0/7.0 then RDI 7.5, and then RDP 8.0. Every Release got better EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! AWESOME!!!

Then RDP 8.5 came out with memory leaks and unable to find source to debug a currently running JOB...

Sadly, when showing Newbies Rational Developer 8.5, and it crashing, and unable to debug. They immediately scream, "That is why we DO NOT use RDP, it is UNSTABLE!". SEU never gives us any issues! It is rock solid! The initial impression damage was ALREADY DONE! Sadly.

RDP 8.5 still has the memory leak issue. And the debug job with the patches works "Most of the time", but when I need it most. It reverts back to the "Unable to find source" again! <Found>

The newbies already had a bad taste in the mouth from the first impression, right or wrong, that RDP is not stable... A huge hurdle to overcome the initial impression of RDP 8.5 being "JUNK".

Count me as a big Fan of Rational Developer! It makes my job more fun and productive! I strongly recommend it!

I was just greatly disappointed with that release, hence why I am RDP 8.0.3, which is basically ROCK SOLID! <Joy Joy>


-Ken Killian-
IBM i running on Power-System, Mobile Comm Developer Back-End.
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-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 1:18 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Debugging program with multiple users

Darn it! The fold at IBM were supposed to have fixed that and made the source available there.

I can see a version of it on my system - I'll have to check with Paul Tuohy to make sure that is the current version. Once I've done that I'll upload it somewhere.


On 2013-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Gary Thompson <gthompson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jon,

great recommend - has help me and something I need to work more with.

btw - possible to get a copy of REDBOOK/EXCEPTSRC ?


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:10 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Debugging program with multiple users

You already have the SEP information needed to debug - but have you taken steps to obtain the screen image _and_ dump when the program crashes?

The IBM Redpiece on Error Handling includes this kind of information -
see http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4321.html

It includes a simple routine that will grab the screen for you - I have found it is often easier to debug if you can "see" what the screen content was at the time of the error.


On 2013-10-09, at 10:04 AM, Bryan Neal <bneal69@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Gary,

When I run the program all works correctly. I need to know how the
other users are using the program to determine the solution that is
why the need for debug. This is a interactive job and at any point
the program may be used or it may not be used at all today.

I may have to do the pick a user and wait it out.




On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Gary Thompson <gthompson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am guessing you want to debug via Service Entry Point.

I am guessing the program you want to debug runs in a batch process
(otherwise you would want to prepare the user in advance ?)

Any chance you can run the required job ?

Otherwise, that's a tough one, just have to "pick and wait" ?


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bryan Neal
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 7:34 AM
To: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Debugging program with multiple users

How can I debug a program that multiple users (Over 50) have access
without knowing the user ID?

Thanks!
Bryan
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