Re: WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!! -- WDSCI-L

Hi Ken
I just tried reproducing the issue with Screen Designer and click on a
field, shows the properties immediately.
Perhaps you can send me the DSPF source.

FYI we will be addressing the asynchronous file search RFE.

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From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries'" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 09/27/2012 02:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!
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Eric,

Normally, I NEVER clear my cache. Because I use the File Search on my PC,
rather than using the search on IBM i, which locks up my RDP session. The
file search, I can search in the background, and normally runs quite fast!

Of course, clearing all my cache files, fixed this problem. But, since I am
usually updating the same group of programs. It is very nice to search the
cache. On WDSC 6/7, RDI 7.5 RDP 8 & below.

On the debug Error, it locks up forever. The screen is sort of grayed out.
And I could NOT do anything. Just the famous "Working ICON" all options
UNAVAILABLE. So, I do NOT know how I could possible report an error, like
an error log. I have to MANUALLY KILL RDP 8.5 and restart it...
Normally, the program call stack might be 6-12 program deep... :(

The error with the Screen Designer, should be fairly easy to duplicate.
Because when I normally click on the field, the properties windows is not
updated. I have to click on another view, to force a "RE-PAINT" of the
properties windows. When I did a change, and exit out. And then load it
back up into RDP 8.5. My changes were not there.

I have been trying to encourage my fellow RPG Developers to use RDP, but
most still use SEU & SDA, since it doesn't error...

I have been using WDSC/RDI/RDP for about 7-years now. And after the initial
learning curve, I LOVE IT! But, it takes a while to get use to!

Where/How do I contact support?

-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Eric Simpson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:11 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Ken,

We are investigating a caching issue which Kurt refers to. It has been a
difficult scenario to isolate. If you or anyone else experiencing the
problem would be willing to help run with a patch that produces trace
information for us please let me know.

If you are experiencing the caching issue, one thing to try is to turn off
the preference for the Live RPG Outline and see if that helps the
situation. The preference is 'Update the Outline view when text is changed
in the editor' on the ILE RPG Parser preference page. Note: you do have to
restart the product if you encounter the caching issue to reset.

For the issues with the Screen Designer and debugger, we would really like
to help you with these so that the product is improved. The best way is to
contact support.

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Simpson
Rational Developer for Power Systems Software IBM Software Group - IBM
Toronto Lab
Phone: 905-413-3226 (Internal: 313-3226)
Email: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx

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I have also encountered the "opening old cache" bug, and opened up a PMR.
They are working diligently on it. I'm praying for a fix in the next
update.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:06 AM
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Hi,

I tried RDP 8.5, and it was "buggy"...

I created a BRAND-NEW Workspace, when I tried RDP 8.5

I tried to update a DDS Screen file, and it didn't update the source. Very
strange. When I clicked on a field in the screen designer. The Properties
window would not auto-fresh. I had to click on other tabs to force an
update.

While debugging programs, my RDP 8.5 crashed way too often! It would
lock-up for over 5-10 minutes, where I had to manually kill it.

And to top it off, when opening up the source, it open an old CACHE first
of the source, that did NOT include recent changes. I NEVER had
WDSC/RDI/RDP do that to me before! That was UNACCEPTABLE! I chase my tail,
think we had SERIOUS problems, only to discover that RDP 8.5 had screwed
up!!!

Anyway, I ended up rolling back RDP 8.0.3, where I do NOT run into any of
the above issues.

I have been developing in RPG for over 20-years. And I had some
"SEU-Fossils" state to me, we do NOT have those problems with "SEU". :(

For now, RDP 8.0.3 is working great. All other previous updates, I seemed
to always notice better performance and features. Not the case with this
release.

By the way, I use RDP 8.5 for over 30-days, before rolling back to version
RDP 8.0.3

So... Be very carefully on this Version. No wonder why IBM did make it an
auto upgrade, it is too buggy!

-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Essinger
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:59 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Question about upgrading RDP

Jack,

I installed RDP 8.5 by going to the IBM rational website, and downloading
the trial. Once I installed the trial 8.5 on the 3 machines here in the
office that already had a license, the software recognized the license, and
the permanent license was active.

Search for IBM rational RDP in Google. The first hit I got was the right
one.

Jim

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Jack Tucky <jacktucky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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