Hi Mike,
For POJO (Plain Old Java Objects) programming, the JDT that comes with Rdp
will be sufficient (it is what we Rdp developers use).
If you are using Web Services or EJBs or HATS screen scraping then you will
want Power Tools(Java/web) or Rdi SOA (HATS/web/EGL).
For licensing you can bundle with as subset of RAD in Power Tools or Rdi
SOA for a better price then both separately, but it doesn't sound like you
need that, so save yourself the money.
If you are using extensive web design or web services then you should
consider the bundle with Power Tools for IBM i (the eclipse.org/wdt tools
are already free and can downloaded from there, just make sure you download
the match level of Eclipse which is 3.6.1 for Rdp 8.x)
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/rdproductline/compare.html#dtab2N1020F
When you purchase Rdp you only want the RPG and COBOL tooling (I assume
that you are not playing around with COBOL or C on AIX/Linux).
There are 3 license types
- term - only lasts one year and then expires (probably not what you want,
since it ends up being more expensive after a couple of years)
- token - with a large shop this makes sense since not as many people will
use the product concurrently so you might save money - again doesn't apply
to your 2 person shop
- authorized user - buy per person - lasts forever - but the SWMA needs to
be renewed - this is what you want
-
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|IBM Rational Developer for Power System RPG and COBOL Development Tools for i Authorized User |913.00|
|License + SW Subscription & Support 12 Months (D0C5FLL) | |
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https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/buyingtools/paexpress/Express?P0=E1&part_number=D0C5FLL&catalogLocale=en_US&locale=en_US&country=USA&PT=html
Lots of good reasons to upgrade
- Graphical DDS screen and report design
- Application diagram - for graphical program understanding and navigation
- "As you type" RPG outline feedback
- all new language features supported
- faster and more stable
- more...
So I suggest you pitch just Rdp for RPG/COBOL for $913 - this may seem
complex but basically we are trying to save you money by having you only
buy what you need (speeds up your computer too)
Regards,
Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
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Rational Developer for Power
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From: Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 08/21/2012 04:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] upgrading from WDSC
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
As David mentions, RDp is built on Eclipse...so there's some built in
Java functionality and there's always plugins...
However, WDSC 7 had some extra IBM provided web functionality, to get
that again, you'd need the "for i SOA construction" or "Power Tools
for IBM i"
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/rdproductline/compare.html#dtab2N1020F
And yes, WDSC 7 doesn't support the new in IBM i 6.1 or 7.1 RPG bifs or
opcodes.
HTH,
Charles
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Smith, Mike
<Mike_Smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We are currently using WDSC 7.0. I am going to try and get my boss to
approve a move to RDP.
We are a 2 person shop and do most development in RPGLE, CL. However we
do a small amount of Java. Mostly to retrieve data from Access tables.
We are on 6.1 and not likely to move for another year or so to 7.1
Is RDP the only product I need? I thought Java was in a separate
offering, but I don't see it. Something like RDP SOI.
Can I do the Java from Eclipse? Meaning develop java programs that hit
the I and access?
It appears there are a couple of ways to license RDP? Any
recommendations on this?
Is there anything that's not available in SEU that is available in RDP to
really push this move(ie validation for new opcodes, etc)
Thanks for any input
Mike
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