Re: Modernizing

The only problem I have with most of these newer frameworks is that
they rely heavily on JavaScript and not so much on HTML. This is
mostly personal preference here, but I like to do must of the display
in HTML and use JavaScript only when needed. I realize why these
products are using JavaScript frameworks as it is much easier to work
with, but that is something to think about as you research them.

Personally, here I think we will probably do ASP.NET MVC front-ends
and use the existing RPG business logic on the back-end.

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Mike Wills
http://mikewills.me



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Brian

I knew you'd see this, and I'm glad you responded. Your points are
well-taken and worth considering. Profound UI does give RPG developers
the ability to work with web output with standard op-codes - best of
both worlds, perhaps.

Vern

On 10/18/2011 10:01 AM, Brian May wrote:

<VENDOR>

Vern,

Expensive is a pretty relative term.  Compared to free, everything is expensive.  :)

The difference there is, in order to use CGIDEV2 effectively, the developer MUST learn HTML and Javascript.  With tools like ProfoundUI, we have taken care of the HTML and Javascript for you and you can concentrate on developing your business application instead of wasting days working out browser compatability issues and the like.

</VENDOR>

Not that I am saying I dislike CGIDEV2.  I think it is a good tool.  I have used it myself an many occasions.  But the price of a commercial tool can often be less than the cost of the time spent learning the complexities of web development.

Brian May
IBM i Modernization Specialist
Profound Logic Software, Inc.
http://www.profoundlogic.com
937-439-7925 Phone
877-224-7768 Toll Free

Modernization Made Easy

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:40 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i&  iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Modernizing

Profound UI is a good tool - and expensive. If you want something that
is free, take a look at CGIDEV2 - google it - there are even some
frameworks around it that can help make development easier for web
interfaces.

You might post on the HTML list here at midrange.com - they'll give you
lots of good advice - maybe more than you might want!!  :)

HTH
Vern

On 10/18/2011 8:09 AM, Frank Hildebrandt wrote:

Hi,

in my opinion this is the one and only solution if you want to stay at RPG.

http://www.profoundui.com/

Frank





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Von: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im
Auftrag von Russell Kalchbrenner
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011 14:50
An: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [WDSCI-L] Modernizing



I am an old time RPG programmer and am currently using Webfacing for their
web development. Although this has been a pretty good tool for us, it has
its limitations. I am looking for some advice on what would be the best
tools to use to modernize their web development. I currently have RBD and
have some minor experience at Java. I do like the RPG language and would
like to continue to incorporate this in my web development.



Any advice?



Russell Kalchbrenner
IT Manager
Financial Management Services, Inc.
Web: www.fmsi-contractorscredit.com

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