Re: Screen designer -- WDSCI-L

Thanks Kenneth,
I was not monitoring the list at the time you sent your original note.
But if you want to send us a list of questions/bugs/enhancement requests,
we will respond to the questions and enter the bug/enhancement requests
into our system for tracking.

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I had some initial difficulties with the Screen Designer in RDP 7.6 and am
not sure if it's something I am doing differently that needs to be done a
specific way or if I have encountered a legitimate bug. But one of the
things I did encounter which made it difficult to use the tool was
unexplainable loss of code for the screen I was working on. I documented
some of the issues I ran across in an earlier post on this board, but
really haven't been able to get back into it because of late I haven't had
any project work that involved either screens or printer files to try it
out.

We are looking to get formalized training in the next few months as we look
to bring RDP 7.6 (and possibly by that time, RDP 8.0) into our business. I
plan to have a list of questions specific to the Screen Designer to see if
I am doing something wrong, if I have encountered a potential legitimate
bug, or of it's a case of it's not designed to do that...but could be a
nice enhancement request in the long run.

Stay tuned...

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:29 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Screen designer

I worked on SDA originally so I am familiar with both feature sets.
While you are correct that multiple selection is weak in Screen Designer it
has tremendous benefits over SDA, so I think it would be wise to give it
another chance.
For example, if you do select a set of fields in the Design tab, you can
select Align from the context menu and align them on left, right, center,
bottom, top, middle, bottom, with record boundaries etc. This could have
accomplished your alignment in your scenario.
Selection of a rectangular set of fields (think - - in SDA) can be done
with the Marquee selection tool from the Palette. These fields can then be
moved manually with the mouse as well.

Here are is small set of features that SDA does not have:

- SDA drops all formatting and comments and completely regenerates your
source, Screen Designer preserves as much as it can and does not touch or
move anything unless it has to.
- SDA has to move in and out of the Design Screen and the various menus to
specify keywords and attributes (using the *;), Screen Designer has a
powerful properties view that shows you all of the properties and lets you
modify them while see their effects while you click.
- Screen Designer has an outline view that always shows you your
hierarchical context as well as allowing quick navigation to the element of
interest, SDA has nothing like this
- SDA and SEU are very distinct modes and a save/load has to occur when
switching between them. In Screen Designer there is a single model that
keeps all views in synch with every key stroke. (Try typing on the field
name in the editor and see the outline view and properties view all update
in real time)
- Screen Designer is fully integrated into Eclipse and uses a mouse to
move/size/select, all of which are faster and more intuitive and productive
(with a shorter learning curve than the green screen)
- the list goes on and on

People didn't become proficient with SDA until they learned all of the
tricks (*, -, = on the Design Screen), it will take a lot less time to
learn Screen Designer and it is a more powerful, integrated tool than SDA.

I hope this helps,

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Yes, I liked being able to search a field name and then seeing instantly
which record I was in.
I've created a new record by option 3 in SDA.
With the source tab I copied the fields from one record to my new record.
The workbench locked for a couple of minutes.
Then, I needed to move the block of fields I just copied to be inline with
those already in the record.
This is so quick and simple in SDA.
I'm afraid I won't be using screen designer again.

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