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I still use PDM to compile. I'm constantly changing job descriptions for compiling and I admit I don't know how to do that in WDSCi (and hopefully the answer is as easy as its done in PDM). And since I'm compiling in PDM, if I have an error, I usually jump into SEU, bring up the spool file, and search on *ERR. Although this doesn't happen too often as I generally use WDSCi's Verify.

We are a small shop and don't have a CSM, but we have an in-house utility we use to archive source, and we do all of that through PDM's user-defined options. If I could duplicate that sort of function to come up when I right-click a source in a filter, that'd be beautiful.

Ultimately, I would survive if SEU/PDM was taken away from me... I guess it would force me to find out how I can do what I need to in RDi.

Thanks for the feedback on RDP cost (no different than RDi). I'm glad to hear it's the same.

-Kurt Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dean, Robert
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:34 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI to RDP

To be fair, as of i 6.1 you're paying seat charges on PDM/SEU and the compilers as well.
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kurt Anderson [kurt.anderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:01 PM
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries'
Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDI to RDP

Is there a cost to upgrade from RDi to RDP?

I think I finally got approval to get RDi when we load 6.1, so I'm wondering if I need to adjust my request to RDP. We wouldn't really use the screen/report designer. Are there any other changes that might be worthwhile for an RPG programmer?

The RPG list has been talking about the price of development software and how it's always been there. I think IBM shot themselves in the foot by making the programmers justify the need for the purchase. I agree that a programmer should justify the cost, but consider this: if we always paid for WDSCi, including shops that only used SEU, well that's got to be the ideal for IBM. Now that it has a separate cost vs a hidden cost (if SEU-only shops knew they were paying for WDSCi, wouldn't they have complained since they weren't using it?). So all around it seems like a new cost. We on the list know there was a cost before, but I find it hard to explain that when asking for money for the software - which leaves the justification in the hands of benefits to the software (of which there are many from SEU to RDi, but from WDSCi to RDi, it's quite less).

So if there is a cost to go from RDi to RDP, I'd like to hear about other RDP benefits so I can consider which IDE I should be asking for.

Thanks,

Kurt Anderson
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
CustomCall Data Systems
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