Re: EGL vs. Java

Well, if you and Joe and Aaron can't make headway with them, my rumblings won't add much. :-)

As for a "real System i open-source community", that is on my "hope" list as well. Folks like Aaron definitely "get it" and there are a few others on the list that see the value in open source projects. Certainly it's no panacea, but it would sure be cool if IBM identified a couple of areas that they could seed with some open source resources (like code and a part time programmer). This would be great for some of the RPG centric tools.
Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for projects like JT/Open and portals like Alphaworks where the cutting edge is alive and well. But it would be nice to have something the community could rally around and used both the RPG skills and the Open Source passions found on the list.

Pete


Jon Paris wrote:

On 31-Jan-08, at 3:25 PM, wdsci-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Yeah, I get that Jon, from a realistic standpoint. I just hate to see
it because it doesn't seem to help move the platform forward as easily
as I hope.

I agree Pete, and as Joe and Aaron will attest, that is a point we tried to ram home with the Rational folks last week. I think that if there was a real System i open-source community - as opposed to a few individuals doing good things and everyone else just wanting to use them - that in Eclipse we have the foundations to "do it ourselves" - but frankly I don't see it happening.

To me the biggest screw-up in the new structure is that there is no RDi entitlement for those who have already invested heavily in using RSE. You can still use WDSC V7.0 but it will not be upgraded with the new verifiers etc. for V6R1 (strangely though SEU will be! - make sense of that if you can). I can accept that in oder to develop new tools (and there are certainly some interesting and pretty i-centric plans) Rational need to make money. I just don't see how punishing the very people that are moving the platform forward helps in that regard.


Jon Paris

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