Re: Web Services Solutions

From: richard@xxxxxxxxxxx

I thought you were teaching a Java class.  Isn't that a new language or
did I get your topic wrong ? :-)

Well, I do teach the language that VB aspires to be.  I remove the middle
man.  (I find it amusing that the only way you can get platform independent
in the Microsoft world is by using the virtual machine that Microsoft
stopped supporting.)

But my jumpstart session is on WDSC for RPG programmers.  You know, that
OTHER language that Microsoft doesn't support. 

My .Net examples will include RPG just as yours probably do.  If you're
only teaching WDSC RPG editing, I guess I will be broadening horizons
while you're teaching Window dressing for editing RPG.

If using BASIC is broadening horizons, then maybe you want to show them how
to drive a horse and buggy, too!

And not only that, but you have to use a third-party product to convert the
BASIC source into the bytecode of the language Microsoft tried to kill in
order to be able to use it on the iSeries.  ("Take this here horse, and hook
up a bag to its butt.  The horse will generate methane, which you can then
use to drive this horseless carriage.")

You and Rube Goldberg, baby!

As to "window dressing" for editing RPG, you say that as if editing RPG is a
bad thing.  Heck, you must be drinking that MS kool-aid!  You're beginning
to sound like all the other people who insist that RPG is dead and to dump
it in favor of something else.  Meanwhile, I can't think of anything more
important to the iSeries community than making RPG programmers more
productive.

Sorry, buddy, but BASIC isn't my idea of the future...

Nothing beats SEU for RPG <wink>.

Well I can see why you would like the green screen, since there is no way to
debug RPG code in Visual Studio.  There's productivity for you...

Maybe someday someone will write a tool that converts one of Microsoft's
many syntaxes into w-code.  Then you can run natively on the iSeries, and
write your code using EDTF!

Thanks, Richard, but I'll stick with RPG, and use Java or EGL as my
interface.  And I'll debug the entire application without leaving my IDE.

And in the meantime, the Microsoft advocates can write code in BASIC that is
converted to Java bytecode, and debug their RPG code in the green screen, at
least until they dump the iSeries and outsource the whole project to some
offshore .NET/SQL Server firm.

Joe