RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ?

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Ah the commodore 64.  I had a Vic 20 if anyone can recall that, back when 
I was a kid.  After reading the book that came with it, there was a 
program at the end for a tank game.  It was a ton of lines of code (or at 
least to a 7 yr old it was) and I spent about 3 hours coding that game. 
Got some errors, fixed them and finally got to play the game for about 5 
minutes.  Then I had to use the bathroom.  Came back to find that Mom had 
turned the computer off because I wasn't using it and since the program 
was only in the memory and I had not backed it up to the tape drive..... 
My first lesson in SAVE SAVE SAVE lol.

Ron Power
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Thanks for everybody's input on the RPG/400 vs. IV issue maybe now I
have some leverage.

As for the C part, this may explain some reactions (in general) from my
part:

I always did my programming for Windows, Linux and VMS in MS visual
studio (C++ and VB), just recently I started programming for the
iSeries. So, you can imagine I desperately started looking for a MS-VS
like tool. So I found WDSci, my life was good again! To bad that a lot
of the tools in MS VS (especialy the latest .NET 'Whiteby' version) are
not to be found in WDSci! And because of the poor support on RPG/400 I
am forced to go back to PDM. 

Can you imagine a step from MS VS .Net to SEU on a green screen? It is
like throwing away my $2000 PC and start working on my Comodore 64 again
(those were the times :-). 

Like I said earlier: WDSci is going in the right direction but not realy
there yet and far to late.


But I will keep all your comments in mind and try to make the best of
it!


Bas

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Namens J.Beckeringh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2004 14:38
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Onderwerp: RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ?

Bas,

>- The main reasons for NOT converting the RPG/400 stuff to RPG/IV is:
>  - this would mean re-educate 35 people for RPG/IV (I would then 
>personally chose C )
>  - We start to work with yet another language which does not realy 
>improve transparency
>
>Again: I fully agree on converting, but how do I convince 35 people to 
>learn RPG/IV?

RPG IV is NOT another language; it is the same language, in a slightly
different format (and extended). Re-education is not necessary (until
you want to use the added features, of course). A few years ago I told a
new programmer, who was educated in RPG III, that we used RPG IV. That
same morning he was programming in RPG IV; never looked back.

As for C: Now that is a totally different language. And since you can
use the C libraries in RPG (IV), RPG is arguably more powerful than C on
the iSeries.

Joep Beckeringh
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