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Ron, Remember Radar Rat Race, and that crazy game where you had to bomb the towers! cheers Colin.W Extension 5800 Direct dial 0870 429 5800 -----Original Message----- From: RPower@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:RPower@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 02 September 2004 15:34 To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ? Ah the commodore 64. I had a Vic 20 if anyone can recall that, back when I was a kid. After reading the book that came with it, there was a program at the end for a tank game. It was a ton of lines of code (or at least to a 7 yr old it was) and I spent about 3 hours coding that game. Got some errors, fixed them and finally got to play the game for about 5 minutes. Then I had to use the bathroom. Came back to find that Mom had turned the computer off because I wasn't using it and since the program was only in the memory and I had not backed it up to the tape drive..... My first lesson in SAVE SAVE SAVE lol. Ron Power Programmer Information Services City Of St. John's, NL P.O. Box 908 St. John's, NL A1C 5M2 Tel: 709-576-8132 Email: rpower@xxxxxxxxxx Website: http://www.stjohns.ca/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - Sir Winston Churchill "Dijk, Bas v" <bvdijk@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 02/09/2004 11:51 AM Please respond to Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ? Thanks for everybody's input on the RPG/400 vs. IV issue maybe now I have some leverage. As for the C part, this may explain some reactions (in general) from my part: I always did my programming for Windows, Linux and VMS in MS visual studio (C++ and VB), just recently I started programming for the iSeries. So, you can imagine I desperately started looking for a MS-VS like tool. So I found WDSci, my life was good again! To bad that a lot of the tools in MS VS (especialy the latest .NET 'Whiteby' version) are not to be found in WDSci! And because of the poor support on RPG/400 I am forced to go back to PDM. Can you imagine a step from MS VS .Net to SEU on a green screen? It is like throwing away my $2000 PC and start working on my Comodore 64 again (those were the times :-). Like I said earlier: WDSci is going in the right direction but not realy there yet and far to late. But I will keep all your comments in mind and try to make the best of it! Bas -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens J.Beckeringh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2004 14:38 Aan: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Onderwerp: RE: [WDSCI-L] Some obvious questions on WDSci ? Bas, >- The main reasons for NOT converting the RPG/400 stuff to RPG/IV is: > - this would mean re-educate 35 people for RPG/IV (I would then >personally chose C ) > - We start to work with yet another language which does not realy >improve transparency > >Again: I fully agree on converting, but how do I convince 35 people to >learn RPG/IV? RPG IV is NOT another language; it is the same language, in a slightly different format (and extended). Re-education is not necessary (until you want to use the added features, of course). A few years ago I told a new programmer, who was educated in RPG III, that we used RPG IV. That same morning he was programming in RPG IV; never looked back. As for C: Now that is a totally different language. And since you can use the C libraries in RPG (IV), RPG is arguably more powerful than C on the iSeries. 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