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I just have to say that this is so cool that IBM gets directly involved
like this. Sounds like folks that want to produce a good product.

Thanks...

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:42:43 -0400, "Don Yantzi" <yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx>
said:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Obviously losing source changes is a very serious matter and one that the
> WDSc team would like to get fixed quickly.  If anyone out there has
> experienced this problem in the past or regularly then please send me an
> email directly (yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx) with as much details as possible.  It
> doesn't have to be typed up in a nice note, just jot them down and fire
> them my way.  I will report any findings back to the mailing list, along
> with an update manager fix : )
> 
> Of particular interest would be:
> 
> 1.  Was this an existing source member or a new one?
> 2.  Did you use the regular save or save as action?
> 3.  Frequency with which this problem occurs.
> 3.  Which (if any) error messages or informational messages did you see?
> 4.  Do you ever lose your network connection or disconnect the RSE
> connection while editing?
> 5.  Do you ever work disconnected?
> 6.  Do you use the program verifier and how do you normally launch it
> (see
> note below)
> 7.  Please attach your .log file from the %workspace root%/.metadata
> directory.
> 8.  Absolutely anything else you think is relevant.
> 
> The more info you include the better chances that we will be able to put
> the pieces together and figure out the problem(s).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Yantzi
> WebSphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Phone: (905) 413-4476
> IBM internal:  IBMCA(yantzi)  -  Internet: yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
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>              08/10/2004 01:19          Re: [WDSCI-L] Host source member   
>              PM                        not being updated!                 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael and others,
> 
> When you verify your source do you use the verify action on the pop-up
> menu
> for the member in the Remote Systems view or do you use the Verify action
> in the Source main menu (this would include the Ctrl + Shitf + V shortcut
> as well as the new verify icon in the toolbar in 5.1.2)?
> 
> The reason I'm asking is that the Verify action from the source menu
> verifies the contents of the editor, while the verify action on the
> pop-up
> for the member verifies the contents of the remote member (and would
> ignore
> any unsaved changes in the editor, but you should not lose any unsaved
> changes in the editor.)
> 
> For now I would recommend using the Verify action from the source menu
> (or
> the shortcut or icon) if you have the member opened since the line
> numbers
> in the error list will correspond to the same line numbers in the editor.
> We will be changing the behaviour of the verify action in the popup to be
> consistent with the verify action from the source menu.
> 
> Some more background:  when reporting these kinds of problems, please be
> very specific about messages you get.  There are three different messages
> that you could see here and each has very different meanings:
> 
> Normal Dialog (title:  "Save Resource"  message "'Filename' has been
> modified.  Save Changes?")  This is the dialog you get if you close the
> editor and haven't saved your changes yet.
> 
> Alternative Dialog(title:  "Save Conflict"  message "The member has
> changed
> on the remote system since it was opened")  If you get this message then
> the remote member has changed since it was downloaded and opened in the
> editor.  When the RSE opens a remote member it locks the member just like
> SEU, so in order to get this dialog the lock must have been released
> somehow (for example:  the RSE connection was disconnected.)
> 
> Alternative Dialog (title:  "File Changed" message:  "The file has been
> changed on the file system.  Do you want to load the changes?")  in this
> case the temporary file that the Workbench editor is editing has gotten
> changed on the local PC filesystem outside of the editor.  The editor
> detects this and displays this message.  Unless you physically opened the
> temporary file in an editor outside the Workbench then there is likely a
> bug that causes the local file to get "touched" and therefore you see
> this
> message.
> 
> Obviously if you see either of the alternative dialogs and think there is
> a
> bug please let us know (include WDSc version and steps to reproduce the
> problem if possible.)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Yantzi
> WebSphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Phone: (905) 413-4476
> IBM internal:  IBMCA(yantzi)  -  Internet: yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
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>              08/09/2004 01:09          Re: [WDSCI-L] Host source member
>              PM                        not being updated!
> 
> 
>              Please respond to
>                  Websphere
>                 Development
>              Studio Client for
>                   iSeries
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    I've seen the 'Source changed' message also.  It's a timing issue. 
>    When
>    you 'save' the member in RSE, it really just tells the workbench to
>    save
>    the member.  It won't actually be saved for a little bit (depending on
>    file size, network speed, ... among many other factors).  What the
> message
>    is telling you is that the member on the AS/400 (iSeries / I5  !-) )
>    is
>    different than what's in the workbench.  If you select 'No' to this
> dialog
>    it should complete your save from the workbench to the 400 and your
>    changes will be saved.  When you say 'Yes' it updates the workbench
>    copy
>    from the 400 and your changes are wiped out.  I understand that the
>    development team is working on something to indicate the status of a
>    requested save.  When we have this, we'll be able to wait until the
>    save
>    is actually completed before closing down.  Then we shouldn't see the
>    message.  (It would be nice if they also didn't display this message
>    for
> a
>    source member when a workbench save has been requested.)
>    Michael Quigley
>    Systems-Analyst
>    The Way International
>    www.TheWay.org
> 
>    Original message:
>    ------------------------------
> 
>    date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:42:09 -0400
>    from: RNance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    subject: [WDSCI-L] Host source member not being updated!
> 
>    I have run into the problem where my host source member is not
>    being updated with the changes I have made in RSE.  This is a
>    periodic problem without an explanation.
> 
>    Last Friday:  I was making changes in RSE, hit the save button
>    and then closed the source member.  The "source changed" dialog
>    appeared and 'of course' I wanted to save my changes so I
>    selected Yes.  However, the host source member did not reflect
>    the changes.  So, I reopened the source member in RSE and the
>    changes were not there either.
> 
>    I have not changed any of this settings the I think would cause
>    this behavior so I cannot think what has happened.  Because of
>    the time line of the project I shut  down WDSC and moved on with
>    my work using the green screen.
> 
>    The following is the version/build data: Version: 5.1.0.2 - Build
>    id: 20040127_1200.
> 
>    This has happened in the past and I am curious if I am just in
>    the twilight zone or if this happens to others!
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