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I just have to say that this is so cool that IBM gets directly involved like this. Sounds like folks that want to produce a good product. Thanks... On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:42:43 -0400, "Don Yantzi" <yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > > Hi all, > > Obviously losing source changes is a very serious matter and one that the > WDSc team would like to get fixed quickly. If anyone out there has > experienced this problem in the past or regularly then please send me an > email directly (yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx) with as much details as possible. It > doesn't have to be typed up in a nice note, just jot them down and fire > them my way. I will report any findings back to the mailing list, along > with an update manager fix : ) > > Of particular interest would be: > > 1. Was this an existing source member or a new one? > 2. Did you use the regular save or save as action? > 3. Frequency with which this problem occurs. > 3. Which (if any) error messages or informational messages did you see? > 4. Do you ever lose your network connection or disconnect the RSE > connection while editing? > 5. Do you ever work disconnected? > 6. Do you use the program verifier and how do you normally launch it > (see > note below) > 7. Please attach your .log file from the %workspace root%/.metadata > directory. > 8. Absolutely anything else you think is relevant. > > The more info you include the better chances that we will be able to put > the pieces together and figure out the problem(s). > > Thanks. > > Don Yantzi > WebSphere Development Studio Client for iSeries > IBM Toronto Lab > Phone: (905) 413-4476 > IBM internal: IBMCA(yantzi) - Internet: yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Don > Yantzi/Toronto/IB > M@IBMCA > To > Sent by: Websphere Development Studio > Client > wdsci-l-bounces@m for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > idrange.com > cc > > Subject > 08/10/2004 01:19 Re: [WDSCI-L] Host source member > PM not being updated! > > > Please respond to > Websphere > Development > Studio Client for > iSeries > > > > > > > > > > > Michael and others, > > When you verify your source do you use the verify action on the pop-up > menu > for the member in the Remote Systems view or do you use the Verify action > in the Source main menu (this would include the Ctrl + Shitf + V shortcut > as well as the new verify icon in the toolbar in 5.1.2)? > > The reason I'm asking is that the Verify action from the source menu > verifies the contents of the editor, while the verify action on the > pop-up > for the member verifies the contents of the remote member (and would > ignore > any unsaved changes in the editor, but you should not lose any unsaved > changes in the editor.) > > For now I would recommend using the Verify action from the source menu > (or > the shortcut or icon) if you have the member opened since the line > numbers > in the error list will correspond to the same line numbers in the editor. > We will be changing the behaviour of the verify action in the popup to be > consistent with the verify action from the source menu. > > Some more background: when reporting these kinds of problems, please be > very specific about messages you get. There are three different messages > that you could see here and each has very different meanings: > > Normal Dialog (title: "Save Resource" message "'Filename' has been > modified. Save Changes?") This is the dialog you get if you close the > editor and haven't saved your changes yet. > > Alternative Dialog(title: "Save Conflict" message "The member has > changed > on the remote system since it was opened") If you get this message then > the remote member has changed since it was downloaded and opened in the > editor. When the RSE opens a remote member it locks the member just like > SEU, so in order to get this dialog the lock must have been released > somehow (for example: the RSE connection was disconnected.) > > Alternative Dialog (title: "File Changed" message: "The file has been > changed on the file system. Do you want to load the changes?") in this > case the temporary file that the Workbench editor is editing has gotten > changed on the local PC filesystem outside of the editor. The editor > detects this and displays this message. Unless you physically opened the > temporary file in an editor outside the Workbench then there is likely a > bug that causes the local file to get "touched" and therefore you see > this > message. > > Obviously if you see either of the alternative dialogs and think there is > a > bug please let us know (include WDSc version and steps to reproduce the > problem if possible.) > > Thanks. > > Don Yantzi > WebSphere Development Studio Client for iSeries > IBM Toronto Lab > Phone: (905) 413-4476 > IBM internal: IBMCA(yantzi) - Internet: yantzi@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > MichaelQuigley@Th > eWay.org > Sent by: > To > wdsci-l-bounces@m wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > idrange.com > cc > > Subject > 08/09/2004 01:09 Re: [WDSCI-L] Host source member > PM not being updated! > > > Please respond to > Websphere > Development > Studio Client for > iSeries > > > > > > > I've seen the 'Source changed' message also. It's a timing issue. > When > you 'save' the member in RSE, it really just tells the workbench to > save > the member. It won't actually be saved for a little bit (depending on > file size, network speed, ... among many other factors). What the > message > is telling you is that the member on the AS/400 (iSeries / I5 !-) ) > is > different than what's in the workbench. If you select 'No' to this > dialog > it should complete your save from the workbench to the 400 and your > changes will be saved. When you say 'Yes' it updates the workbench > copy > from the 400 and your changes are wiped out. I understand that the > development team is working on something to indicate the status of a > requested save. When we have this, we'll be able to wait until the > save > is actually completed before closing down. Then we shouldn't see the > message. (It would be nice if they also didn't display this message > for > a > source member when a workbench save has been requested.) > Michael Quigley > Systems-Analyst > The Way International > www.TheWay.org > > Original message: > ------------------------------ > > date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:42:09 -0400 > from: RNance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > subject: [WDSCI-L] Host source member not being updated! > > I have run into the problem where my host source member is not > being updated with the changes I have made in RSE. This is a > periodic problem without an explanation. > > Last Friday: I was making changes in RSE, hit the save button > and then closed the source member. The "source changed" dialog > appeared and 'of course' I wanted to save my changes so I > selected Yes. However, the host source member did not reflect > the changes. So, I reopened the source member in RSE and the > changes were not there either. > > I have not changed any of this settings the I think would cause > this behavior so I cannot think what has happened. Because of > the time line of the project I shut down WDSC and moved on with > my work using the green screen. > > The following is the version/build data: Version: 5.1.0.2 - Build > id: 20040127_1200. > > This has happened in the past and I am curious if I am just in > the twilight zone or if this happens to others! > > The contents of this email may be confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient of this email, any access to, disclosure, copying, > or > distribution of this information, is prohibited and may be unlawful. > If > you receive this email in error, please reply to the sender > immediately > to > advise him/her of the error, and then delete this email and any > attachments. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 7.0.262 / Virus Database: 264.4.0 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 > _______________________________________________ > This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l > or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l > or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l > or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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