RE: [WDSCI-L] Newbie Question Number One

["David Morris" <David.Morris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe,

One option for synchronizing Jar files is Maven, which is an open
source 
(free) project management tool. Maven can work over the Web to update 
projects a lot like the Web start tool from Sun. I try to make my code

work with the lowest common denominator for things like XML parsing 
and then specify the actual implementation whenever I can to reduce 
problems.

CVSNT is OK, but it is not as fully tested against Eclipse as the Linux

version. The only real issue I have run into is with aliased repository

names, which work well against a Linux CVS server but don't work at 
all against an NT CVS server.

David

>>> MarkP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 5/29/2003 1:33:17 PM >>>
Joe,

CVSNT is only supported by Eclipse on a "best-effort" basis, but a lot
of 
people seem to be using it, and I believe somewhere on the Eclipse site

they list a version that works better than others.  If you want to do
it 
on Linux, this is one of those cases where you could probably
legitimately 
do it on an old 486 running in character mode.

If you have Microsoft SourceSafe because you own a Visual Studio
license, 
then I believe there is an open source plugin that connects it to
Eclipse. 
 Then there is also Merant PVCS VM which we resell which is something
like 
$595/seat and connects with Eclipse.

Finally, if you have access to WSAD through PartnerWorld, doesn't it
still 
come with ClearCase LT?  This can use a Windows server for its server.

You should enter your ideas for enhancing the EAR packager in FRED.

  https://www.ibm.com/software/wsdd/products/fred/fred.html 

I think they would have to have some specific option to say you wanted
to 
do this.  Because, for example, I have external jar files I supply for

things like WebSphere-specific code, JavaMail or even Xerces, that I do

not need to distribute with my application because the runtime
application 
server supplies those jar files.

Mark







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> From: Mark Phippard
>
> As far as I know, the WSAD tooling does not provide access to these
> sort of advanced EAR file features.

"advanced"  <shaking head>  Common code between two applications -
that's
advanced, eh?  And some people wonde why I say that the J2EE model is
inadequate for production application development.  Oh well, I'll try
to 
be
non-negative.


> All that aside, if you are using any kind of version control,
> even CVS, it
> is very easy to manage this (at least for JAR's like JTOpen, Struts,
> Xerces etc. where they change slowly).  You just connect to the
> repository
> and add your project and everything comes in all configured.

Okay, this is where it gets seriously interesting.  First off, I'll
understand if you don't want to help me with this next bit, because
it's
directly impinging on your market niche, but I'm going to ask anyway,
and
maybe if you'd rather not answer, someone else will.

The idea here is to do this for free (or at best a $100 utility).  I
don't
want to spend thousands of dollars for a project management system
YET.
Long term, that may be the right answer, and it really depends on your

shop.
But let's say I am comfortable today with simply saving libraries to 
CD-ROM
for backup and using file compares for version control.  CDs are cheap,

file
compare is free.

Okay, now I need to set up CVS.  First off, from what I've read the
open
source CVS server for Windows (CVSNT) isn't exactly up to snuff (and
I've
tried to use it, and it's been a little weird).  So what do I need to
do?
Get a Linux machine just in order to keep my WDSC workstations in
sync?

Do you see how this is becoming a little more complicated?



> If you have some internal projects you want to package it sounds
> like you have already
> discovered that you can define the Java Project in which you develop

that
> code as a "Library Project" to your Web Project and its code is then
> automagically kept updated in the Web Project.

Yeah, this kicks butt!  I just wish they'd have put the same thought
into
the concept of true external JAR files.

Joe

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