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Jon, My apologies if the stuff below does not line up correctly in your email program. The SAVSYS and SAVLIB(*NONSYS) commands, which are part of the "GO SAVE" option 21 (save entire system), require a dedicated system. There is no way around (that I am aware) of doing a SAVSYS without having a dedicated system. However, we only do a SAVSYS quarterly, when we apply a cumulative PTF package from IBM, upgrade the O/S, or when we apply hi-per PTF's and it only takes about 20 minutes to do on our 720. The SAVLIB(*NONSYS) can be done on a non-dedicated system by combining the SAVLIB(*ALLUSR), SAV, and SAVDLO command. We do the equivalent of option 21, minus the SAVSYS, by doing the following in a CL program. The CL program is placed on the AS/400 Job Scheduler (WRKJOBSCDE) and set to run every night at the same time. End subsystem QINTER and any other interactive user subsystems. We send a message to users warning them that they will be knocked off of the system in X minutes. This us usually not a problem because we have very few users that work late. We then do the following saves: *** Note: SAVSYS also does a SAVSECDTA and a SAVCFG *** Note: Save user profiles, etc. SAVSECDTA DEV(TAP05) SEQNBR(1) ENDOPT(*LEAVE) + CLEAR(*ALL) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) + OUTFILE(Z30F/BACKUPDATA) OUTMBR(*FIRST *ADD) MONMSG CPF0000 *** Note: Save devices, lines, etc. SAVCFG DEV(TAP05) ENDOPT(*LEAVE) CLEAR(*ALL) + OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(Z30F/BACKUPDATA) + OUTMBR(*FIRST *ADD) MONMSG CPF0000 **** Note: Save IBM licensed programs SAVLIB LIB(*IBM) DEV(TAP05) ENDOPT(*LEAVE) + OUTMBR(*FIRST *ADD) CLEAR(*ALL) SAVACT(*SYSDFN) SAVACTWAIT(0) + ACCPTH(*YES) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) + OUTFILE(Z30F/BACKUPDATA) OUTMBR(*FIRST *ADD) MONMSG CPF0000 End System 21 subsystems that lock certain file like subsystems GLBACK3, PLBACK3, OSLMJ and any others that you might use. To stop OSLMJ (the manufacturing transaction manager job) we created a custom task that has program MJ599 in the "Batch program to process request" on the task. *** Note: End G/L subsystem RUNAMTASK APPL(GL) RLSL(03) TASK(0002) PGM(GL953CLP) + CONO(RX) USER(SPRILL) ENDSBS SBS(PLBACK3) OPTION(*IMMED) MONMSG MSGID(CPF9999) *** Note: If the MGTC (Management Central) server is not ended all objects in QUSRSYS do not get saved in the *ALLUSR save below. ENDTCPSVR SERVER(*MGTC) *** Note: This saves all of System 21 and any other user libraries SAVLIB LIB(*ALLUSR) DEV(TAP05) ENDOPT(*LEAVE) + CLEAR(*ALL) SAVACT(*NO) ACCPTH(*YES) + OMITLIB(TEST TEST2 TEST3 + OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(Z30F/BACKUPDATA) + OUTMBR(*FIRST *ADD) MONMSG CPF0000 *** NOTE: COMMAND SAV SAVES ALL DATA THAT IS NOT IN LIBRARY QSYS (user libraries) AND NOT IN THE DOCUMENT LIBRARY OBJECTS (QDLS) SAV DEV('/qsys.lib/tap05.devd') OBJ(('/*') + ('/qsys.lib' *OMIT) ('/qdls' *OMIT)) + ENDOPT(*LEAVE) MONMSG CPF0000 *** Note: Save documents and folders SAVDLO DLO(*ALL) DEV(TAP05) ENDOPT(*LEAVE) + OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(Z30F/SAVDLODATA) MONMSG CPF0000 Restart your subsystems. My program does other things like releasing a job queue that contains nightly jobs that we want to run after the backup is complete. This method does not require a dedicated system and is fully supported by IBM for Business Recovery contracts where IBM will restore your system for you. We have tested this with IBM and it works. You can do DSPLOG to confirm that you are saving every object in every library. Good luck, Steve -----Original Message----- From: JonWadey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:JonWadey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:01 AM To: System 21 Users Subject: [SYSTEM21] Go Save opt 21 I'm currently looking at our backup strategy and would like to look at scheduling an option 21 on the Save menu within the IBM job scheduler. And was wondering if anyone else had done this and if so how! thanks in advanced Jon Jon Wadey IT Manager M & S Toiletries Ltd Tel :- (+44) 1506 835600 Fax :- (+44) 1506 835609 **************************************************************************** ******** This E-mail message, including any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential information. 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